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56 FROM MGM+ : Season 3 Preview Breakdown with Bob Mann
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What kind of mysteries lie ahead in the newest season of our favorite show? Join us for an electrifying conversation with the legendary Bob Mann as we dissect the season three trailer, pointing out clever misleading snapshots that keep us all guessing. Together, we ponder the enigmatic figure in the wheelbarrow and the significant symbolism of sneakers, as well as other visual clues that hint at the thrilling surprises awaiting us.
Our discussion takes a deep dive into the character arcs from season one and two, exploring the stress and chaos that have enveloped our beloved characters, especially Boyd and Jade. We delve into the theories surrounding the monsters' appearances and the possibility of a higher entity controlling them. The standout performance by fan-favorite Molly and the thematic elements of Americana and historical context are also spotlighted, drawing fascinating parallels to Stephen King's works.
As we wrap up, we uncover intricate Easter eggs and dissect key plot points, from Liz's emotional scenes to Boyd's haunting visions. We speculate on the introduction of new characters and the potential return of familiar faces, debating the necessity of major character deaths for impactful storytelling. Get ready for a thorough exploration of the show's complex world, leaving you eagerly anticipating the next episode.
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Speaker 2:Welcome to the show. My name is Alex and I'm Lizzie. We have our special guest, bob Mann, of Bob Mann fame, as well as being Frank, the guy that caused the whole problem, and from probably, probably, and I just I just realized just watching the intro.
Speaker 3:There there's no pictures of poor frank pratt, isn't? Well, obviously you know what I promise james mcguire in there five times no, I didn't have jimmy.
Speaker 2:You know we didn't name them Smiley and everybody, and we're taking credit for it because we're the only ones that actually booked them first. Oh, is that right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were the first interview ever ever. But before we do that, this is the what Is From cast and if you guys are so inclined, please hit the subscribe button. We're trying to get to 510 subscribers by the end of this. Uh, wonderful. And like I said, today we have bob man, the myth, the legend, and bob, did you get to see both of the trailers? I believe I've seen both of the trailers. Okay, we're gonna run them in just a minute, that's right. Yeah, before you saw them first off, I know it was a big surprise. Yeah, that they just kind of dropped in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, you're a fan of the show um what was your first thoughts of your anticipation of season three? I mean?
Speaker 3:I, I hope and expect that it will go to the same unpredictable and crazy kind of places that season two did, because season two just felt, like every episode and then, when the next episode, then the next episode introduced something new, that you went I kind of thought I had a sense of what was going on around here and now now I'm not sure if I do and then you reposition your thoughts until next Sunday and then something new happens again and you go wait a minute, ballerinas. What is?
Speaker 4:happening here.
Speaker 3:Is this, you know, am I at the opera Like it? Just doesn't, you know. So I'm hoping that there'll be more of that, because I love the layers that keep getting built on top of it. I mean, obviously there's the big question about you know who's in that cart. You know who? Yeah, did someone die is there? Uh, it could be a juke, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I don't know if you old guys are familiar with that expression, old guys, where you know, uh, the something gets put in the trailer that misleads you into thinking that like a, like a drunken guy or whatever, like something, something that you watch the trailer you know the classic.
Speaker 3:The classic is the is the first talented mr ripley movie with uh oh yeah, yes I remember, I remember that trailer and watching the trailer and going okay, psychological thriller, I think I have a sense of what this movie is going to be about. And then you watch the movie and realize that all those little snapshots in the trailer were very misleading, out of context, and so I'm kind of hoping that there's a fair bit of that going on. That's interesting to me. I like to be misled and I like to, you know, I like to have my expectations kind of frustrated. I'm also not very smart. I like to be misled and I like to, you know, I like to have my expectations kind of frustrated. I'm also not very smart, so, you know, I like to think that it's somebody doing it to me instead of me just being slow.
Speaker 2:So before we get to the trailer, I just want to pay one bill here and I think you're in this, I think you're in this and this is our what is from poster. I'm going to look and I'm going to see. I'm going to feel really embarrassed. I don't see Bob. He's there. He's just behind Scott, I think.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 2:There's his. No, the trailer's there. He's in the trailer to the right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there he is poking his face out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there he is poking his face out and folks, you know we did a really great job working with Kirk Manley and if you want, you can just go to our shop, which is Etsy shop, at what is from shop, and purchase one. Lizzie is waiting with bated breath to put them in an envelope and send them off to you. It's a limited edition and it's only season one. What we're going to do is, as soon as we kind of start, we're going to do a season two and then hopefully season three. So, bob, there is hope for you to be in season two. We might put you in there, regardless of the fact that you weren't there.
Speaker 3:Again a juke. The collector of the poster will go weren't there again juke the the view.
Speaker 2:The collector of the poster will go, wait a minute, and then that's it but and I know we have some people on on, uh, instagram, I mean on instagram, on youtube so if you have any questions or theories, or whatever it is, you have everything is on the table right now. So, without further ado, let's watch the first of two trailers Magic of.
Speaker 3:Life. Yeah, you don't know what's going to happen. I don't know what's going to happen.
Speaker 4:I don't know either.
Speaker 2:Now, folks, what was your thoughts on that? Because it came on and you're like what the hell did I just see? And you want to keep playing it over and over again, because the big question, like you said, is who is in that weir barrel? Yeah, what's?
Speaker 4:your thoughts. Lizzie, somehow I'm just leaning, I don't know I I have been re-watching. And the thing about those sneakers more than one person is wearing that style sneaker and because of that it's hard to tell who is in that barrel. I just, I mean, I was thinking Tabitha, that she fell off the tower, the you know the lighthouse thing, and her body was left, but yet somehow she was also transported elsewhere and maybe she was all mangled and that's what they're, you know, walking back um. But then I'm trying to think like who could it be? Maybe someone from the bus, like mariel?
Speaker 2:maybe they're knocking on the door. Yeah, I'm sorry, it was just my little 80s men at work reference of men at work right now the door does it, does it? That's a very much of a deep cut. Um, let's just play it again. If you want me to stop at any time, we can, okay.
Speaker 4:So we got feet yeah, so those are the sneakers and they're kind of like.
Speaker 2:They're not like an athletic sneaker, they're more like an everyday type thing sure, I just know one thing um, they're white and they're red and the red is not good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, that's bad, and both Boyd and Jade have blood on them, but it just. You know, it's hard to tell from the bottom of a foot if it's a male or a female, don't you?
Speaker 2:want to just take your finger and go coochie, coochie, coochie.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Chances are, movie magic being what it is, that's, a live person in true life.
Speaker 4:That could be, yeah.
Speaker 3:That person would do it Like I got to play dead Frank Pratt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right. Yeah, you blew our mind when you said that yeah One.
Speaker 3:You blew it, you blew our mind when you said that, yeah, the other thing is.
Speaker 2:Look if someone had tickled me.
Speaker 3:I'm not a good enough actor that I would have not laughed.
Speaker 2:Oh, don't you.
Speaker 4:Don't you, you're worse than that yeah. Is it hard Like when something like that happens and you're in character. Is it hard to resist that sensation?
Speaker 3:Which sensation.
Speaker 4:If someone was tickling you and it wasn't part of the scene, like someone was trying to break your concentration.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, that's a good question. I guess it depends on what it is. I mean, your mind can certainly go. It's not an objective, universal thing. You can't really tickle yourself Right, right, right, and so you know there is this sort of, you know, sensory displacement thing that can happen.
Speaker 3:What I thought you were asking me, though, which is, you know, not quite the same thing, but is playing dead, is probably one of the hardest things to do, really. Oh yeah, like it's really. You become so hypersensitive to your breath and what your body does when you breathe, and also your eyes and how your eyes move, even when they're closed, and all kinds of things, and I've done it a number of times in a number of things, and sometimes, mercifully, the shot is short or the take is short, and you only, but I've done other things where I've had to really kind of maintain it, and you just hope that the edit picks up something that works, and you're not, but it's a real challenge. Like whoever now, whoever's, whoever's in this cart right now, whoever's foot we see assuming it's a real human foot, you know, they're probably pretty chill under there, because all we see is yeah, but I don't know what goes on in the rest.
Speaker 2:Now, this is the interesting question and I know, I know, lizzie, you're you're on top of this. It'll be interesting and I can't wait to talk to liz and nathan simmons. How many days have passed since last season?
Speaker 4:It's not that many it's not that many. I'm on the last episode of season one and I think we're up to seven or eight days, so since the beginning of this, since the beginning. Yeah, so the first season. It is just barely one week since the map arrived.
Speaker 2:To your point, Frank's death is still fresh. Yeah. To a point.
Speaker 4:Although no one talks about him anymore.
Speaker 2:No, but I'm saying and I'm not trying to just bring it in what I'm saying is, if all that other stuff wasn't happening ie cicadas and ropes and all sorts of stuff they would be talking about. You know how Frank went in the box, but let's, I mean the stress level is through the roof right now.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, a lot of people Like seeing that scene, like the first glimpse of that and you knew, all right, someone's dead or really hurt. But then when you see the next scenes you're like maybe they're dead. Oh, and Mrs Liu washed I'm assuming Mrs Lou washed Jade's shirt because he's wearing the kittens again.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. Well, the kittens are always good, but even looking at these guys, I mean this is some serious you know.
Speaker 4:Yeah, look at Boyd.
Speaker 2:Boyd is bloody and Jade is pissed and serious.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and it looks like Boyd is injured on his upper arm too. Like that doesn't look like it's someone's blood, it looks like an injury.
Speaker 2:Yeah, again, we said this when we saw the trailer. Whose blood, Yours or his? I'm going to play it a little bit longer, yeah.
Speaker 3:We don't know when this occurs relative to the end of the previous season, right this?
Speaker 2:could be no, no, I'm going to find that out.
Speaker 4:We're going to get that could be a week in another week, for all we know.
Speaker 2:Now this guy to the right. We've got a couple of new monsters and some of the old favorites. This guy on the right, this professor type of guy, he seems from what is going on he might be a leader, he may not, he might be a conduit. And again, I've said this from the beginning I think there's the people, there's the monsters, and they talked about another entity, the puppet master, whatever that is, and we still have to figure out what that is, because the, the monsters, are scared of something yeah well you know, I, I, I really like how, um over time, they've managed to stay true to the ones that they've showed us that it's the same people in the town um same monsters over and over again.
Speaker 4:So we're not getting this revolving door of monsters.
Speaker 2:There's only one that hasn't. There's only one that hasn't returned.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but it's like a fixed, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and it's funny. I mean we talked about this before with you. Bob, the one monster everybody wants to talk about, had one, two scenes and we had her on and she's just she's a legend. She hasn't returned yet.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she is a legend.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know, maybe we'll get her back on here, but hopefully they can get her back on.
Speaker 4:I've approached her, so I'm hoping that she says yes, bob, you know her right, or you run in the same circles with molly if you're referring? To molly. Eh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I know, I know, I know, we know from the Walking Dead that one character can really knock it out of the park with fans and she, she, her. Our YouTube video with her it's the most popular one, it's the most watched one we have.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 4:It's just, it's incredible Like we have Right. It's just it's incredible, Like we did not expect that. And even when I've gone to her and I'm like dude, like this thing is still the most popular video, she's surprised.
Speaker 3:Right yeah.
Speaker 4:So at any rate, Molly's great.
Speaker 3:Molly's great in everything. I mean I I've seen Molly in a whole bunch of different things and sports to. You know we had a feature film that was shot here a number of years ago this is going back a number of years Local filmmaker Jason Eisner, who's gone on to do a fair bit of you know kind of horror and you know he's sort of a you know product of the VHS 80s, so to speak. Yeah, he made a film that starred Rutger Huer, starring hobo with a shotgun, and molly molly played you know the the lead really in that and was, I mean, just you know, unreal, just a great and comes, comes from a um I was gonna say her dad is, yeah, canadian actor and it's funny, we were talking about it and everybody in the chat for like the first month was I remember her dad, I remember her dad and and um, but anyway, she's just a huge.
Speaker 3:She's a huge talent in in her own right and we we're very proud of her and she's just uh, just wonderful pretty much, and everything, everything she's in. So I'm not surprised that that that she just a great piece of casting for this, for this show. She's perfect yeah.
Speaker 2:On a separate note, I went up to Maine for a vacation recently and we had to get back by Sunday, monday and I'm like Liz, I know the mayor of, I know the mayor of Frum and he's a semi-good friend of mine and he might be able to help us out with a room or something and if we can maybe finagle it, it's only like 10 hours away, I mean it's just a mere 10 hours, and I was going to say you know, I know, bob man, I mean I just once I get to.
Speaker 2:Canada, I don't even need a passport.
Speaker 3:It's so funny, you say that because I was in Maine. I went down to Portland about a month ago. My, my old, my oldest daughter is, she is in competitive dance and there was a big competition down in Portland. So we drove down and I mean, I'd been down to Maine a couple of times for a few different things, but not in quite a number of years and certainly not since I started doing this work. And driving through Maine I was just sort of like, well, this is, this is where, this is where this Stephen King kind of style of of show and horror and so this is where it lives, like even though it's filmed here. You know, the whole time we were driving through kind of rural Maine on our way down to Portland I was thinking, yeah, this is where all of this sort of comes from. This is the, this is the legacy of it. It was just, it was neat being down there and driving through and thinking about this show and some other similar types of shows and things like that.
Speaker 2:It was just neat to be situated in that One of my good friends who's also part of Pycastica. She actually lives outside of Portland and we were supposed to meet up. She wasn't feeling good. We went to this diner called Becky's, which is famous for the area and huge. She has her own podcast. It's called Run for your lives, and the reason why I'm plugging it is, if you like scary stuff, like from they, do all the other scary stuff that I don't do, um, because I'm a big chicken and um, if I had known you could, you might have been able to get a room there because she might have been able to hook you up, but uh, anyway, back to the trailer.
Speaker 3:No, I'm gonna be honest, I'm very, very interested in this cowboy guy, like he really yes, he really does seem like he's going to be an itch and, and you know, we've seen a couple, uh, two or three of these monster characters engage. You know whether it's molly's character, it's, it's, uh, jamie mcguire's character or it's you know, whoever. We've seen some of them, some of these creatures go beyond just being creatures.
Speaker 2:Do you know these actors at all? Do you know any of these extras?
Speaker 3:No, I can't say that I do, although I'd have to look closely, but they really do seem to have an autonomy that, two seasons in, still hasn't been fully explored, right, even even even Smiley really hasn't. Nobody has stepped forward and said, hey, let's have a, let's have a parlay, yeah, about what's going on here. No relationship as of yet has been formed between the creatures and any of the people, right, this guy, look, appears to maybe be the first example of that he was in season two.
Speaker 2:He was in the beginning of season two on the door with fatima and um, ellis ellis, okay, ellis Ellis, yeah, so the thing that, with all of the monsters, they all represent archetypes in a society. Right.
Speaker 4:And so, like this guy is pretty interesting. It just makes me think he sells tires or something like you know, like a tire warehouse, come on down, or like some kind of trading post or something. And you know, like a tire warehouse, come on down or like some kind of trading post or something. And that's why he's dressed like that, because otherwise is he like a kid show host. You know, right, you know back in this, you know time era, that uh, they're all dressed in because that's kind of a look.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're dated archetypes, though, right. Yeah, very dated archetypes yeah, so there is definitely a consistency or a theme kind of going on there 60s, you think, or 50s. Yeah, I'll tell you what it makes me think of. Um, it makes me think of things like um, you know, you think about something like Galaxy Quest. Or you think about, you think about something like um Contact. Or you know I you remember Contact.
Speaker 4:No, no I remember One of my favorite movies.
Speaker 2:The worst ending ever.
Speaker 4:No, it's not.
Speaker 3:It's debatable, right, we can fight about it.
Speaker 2:I mean, what I mean by that is no, I mean I love the movie. I'm thinking Grand Will Dopperee, but whatever works for you.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, but when I think about Contact and I think about, you know, galaxy Quest, one of the things that sort of pops into my head is one of the things that those two stories have in common is that there is a, there is a mirroring back to us.
Speaker 3:Let's call it us people or people you know, outside of a certain realm, and the mirroring back is based on the depiction of ourselves on television or on film at a certain time. You remember when they decoded the message that the aliens in space were sending back and they realized that it was Hitler speaking at the 19.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And the whole idea was well, this is a, this is a, parroting back to us the first television signal that they got yeah, they've been galaxy quest. It's like, well, well, once we, once we encounter this alien race, they're like, oh no, we got your, we got your signals out in space, and so we know what you're all about. And it's, it's, it's the signals from this tv show. Like there there is, there is something, there is a unifying idea to all of these, um, to all of these creatures that they do seem not just like societal archetypes, but they're almost, they almost appear to be television, television stereotypes from the 1950s or 60s. Right, this cowboy guy? I mean, I'm not 100% convinced that in society at any point. I mean, maybe somewhere in the United States that there was a lawman who walked around dressed like that. I mean, maybe there was right, but we certainly know that there's a sugar.
Speaker 2:I do that all the time, Bob. I just do that just because I can.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, absolutely, I believe that. I do that all the time, bob. I just do that just because I can. Yeah, well, absolutely. I believe that I believe that playing make up, make them ups and dress up yeah, that's totally believable.
Speaker 4:Make them ups. I haven't heard that since the last time you were on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's mine let's press on a little bit. Let's see.
Speaker 3:I love that, I love that whole shot there yeah, it's fabulous it gives you a good sense of now.
Speaker 2:This is from last season, because you got the cicadas, oh yeah, and then we've got sorry, I like, I like to show this because I just think it's kind of neat. You know, we've got another character here, big boy, yeah, big boy, and then you've got the other two watching. I think this guy right here is. I don't want to know. I my bet is he's kind of a leader, but we'll see.
Speaker 4:Like. You know what he's like? A university dean?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, but let's just you know, let's just just stop on this for a second and appreciate how, game changing in a sense, this image is right they're not eating them, they're not killing, right there's. There's something else again. There's this idea that we're now at the level where void, maybe, is engaging in more more typical good guy, bad guy relations with these creatures, and I'm not sure what that represents. But he certainly, at the end of season two, broke through something, he solved something, he cracked the code at the end of season two that you know, released, you know who, randall and Julie, and who was the other character, christy's, christy's fiance, you know, release them from their, from their stupor, right, like they sort of the first example. You see where the the creatures get slipped a bit of a Mickey Finn or whoever I mean it's maybe creatures might be, who, whatever, forces behind all this stuff going on.
Speaker 2:Hey Bob, I just want to post this I posted just before um cowboy's shirt doesn't doesn't have any holes from it when boyd shot him. Cool, is this a wardrobe error? We're gonna find out, yeah I mean, this doesn't matter maybe, maybe he's just got a really good cleaner that can stitch things up right, or are the outfits part of the creatures?
Speaker 3:shape-shifting?
Speaker 4:oh yes, either that. Maybe they have a whole um off stage where you know they. They go in every night and everything gets repaired, because obviously he's not the first one to have been shot since we started watching this show.
Speaker 3:That's such a disarming idea of the concept that these creatures wake up at dusk or whatever it is, and then they go to their little closet and they're like ah, I don't know if I'm going to, don't know if they have this closet and they're all the same shirt. Another, another day out in the woods, doug, you know, and you're putting on your shirt and it's like, ah yeah, this one got holes in it. I got to go. I only got one one swap out left. What am I going to do?
Speaker 4:Back to the grind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I. I mean, that's a great shot right there like what, like what is like.
Speaker 3:That's different.
Speaker 4:I mean, you know although again we've we we saw from season two that that the creatures also have a penchant for messing with people yeah, like the whole yeah, like my my, uh, my my pal, um my pal phoeebe in the Spice I was just going to say that I was like Phoebe Rex, just like what they put her through, like her character, not her life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, first off, they made a mistake by killing her.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think that they did. Oh my God, or just even I don't know if she was my God, or just even I don't know if she was in more than just the two episodes. But yeah, I was going to ask you if you knew her.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, almost everybody was just outstanding.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because he's the mayor.
Speaker 3:Phoebe again is one of our and you know we have a, there's a. There's a feature film opening at our film fest next week that's that's highly anticipated called To the Moon, and Phoebe plays a plays a big role in that film.
Speaker 2:Susie Q is one of the other podcasts that also covers from. They do a lot with Quantum Leap as well.
Speaker 3:It's. I know Susie Q, I was on. I was on their podcast for sullivan's crossing. Yeah, for sullivan's crossing. Yeah, oh yeah, and I agree you can't get that yeah, I, I think, oh, I think, on, um, uh, the, on the, the, what would it be?
Speaker 4:on Hulu Like it's supposed to be on Hulu, it's Hulu, but it may be on the WB, it's the. Wb, cw, cw, cw.
Speaker 3:That's right Anyway she says she thinks the clothes are part of the evil, the veil. I agree with Susie Q on this and this is in keeping with my thoughts about the creatures mirroring or holding back to us an aesthetic that they've picked up from somewhere. Yeah, and I think, I don't know. I think maybe that's a clue to when this, this whole thing, originated. Right, if you imagine, if you imagine and I'm not saying it's like, let's say, an alien race or something, but if you imagine, if you imagine and I'm not saying it's like let's say an alien race or something, but if you imagine, what's the movie with, um, uh, natalie portman? It's a really cool movie based on that series of books annihilation yeah, oh, there's also another smaller one.
Speaker 3:I think it was called star wars, but it was also in a little indie thing called star wars. But you know, annihilation, you have this. This entity land in where was it? Cape cod, I don't know where yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3:But it, it, it kind of spreads out to the environment around it and starts interacting with the, the biology, and cloning and changing what it's, and so then it, it basically, is almost literally sometimes mirroring back to anything that wanders into that bubble, the it's, it's manipulation of what it has found there. And then at that time, in that moment and there might be something to that here where it's like, whatever this thing is that they've, that they've found themselves caught inside of, it has shown up and it's gathered information that it had at the time, in the moment, and reconstructed it somehow now this is going back to the clothing.
Speaker 4:Okay, so these guys are you know, for I'm going mostly based off of the women, because it's easier to for me to tell a time like an era from what they're wearing and to me it looks like mid to late 60s. Now victor shows up and he has his lunch box from the 70s because it's disco and bob, I don't, don't know. I don't know. I think you're younger than me, but I'm not sure Easily by decades. I think, yeah, like maybe three decades, but like the disco age was mid to late 70s, which would have been about 10 years after these styles.
Speaker 4:Now, if we go back to the staircase, the bottles with the years in them, we know that or we can surmise that this has happened at different times. So if we're back in 1864 or 65, I forget which one it is if we're back at that one, what are the monsters wearing? They certainly aren't wearing 60s styles, so they have to have different costumes. And then the thing is to dive even deeper.
Speaker 4:if this has been going on through hundreds of years, this is something that's bigger that there could be some sort of thing that has gone on for hundreds of years, maybe back until you know the first people on the land showing up, and maybe it is the first people, descendants of the first people.
Speaker 3:Possibly it might also, you know, I think that's a literalist, I think, kind of interpretation of what we're seeing. The other thing is that it could be whatever it is that they're doing is based on a kind of Americana. Yeah, yeah, and I think about, for example, when I remember the first time that sort of came to my mind watching it, it was like, well, what does all this have in common? Like what does a civil war soldier who appears have in common with, like a milkman, you know, or like, well, you know, what, what, what, what is the common thread through all of this? And it does, it does seem to be a certain kind of almost um, in certain instances, a sort of normanwell-esque kind of depiction of Americana and it goes to other places in history, but it does seem to be sort of drawn from a piece of fiction. And it makes me think about stuff, like, you know, stephen King's Gunslinger series. Once you get into the latter I don't know if you've read the Gunslinger, but you get in you get into the latter portions of the series and there's a relationship between the story that you're reading and Stephen King's larger universe of work. Yeah, the story is, and the characters are engaging. It's almost like a meta fourth wall pullback where it's like oh, this story exists in the larger universe of Stephen King's work, and I'm not saying that's what's going on here, but that there might be some parallel there too.
Speaker 3:Me, when I watch these things, I'm always thinking about well, what could I glean from what I think is what the creator is trying to do in a bigger picture? Like, surely it's not just the case that you know that John is just trying to have fun with everybody and creating a mystery to be solved, like there's more. I like to think that there's something more bigger kind of at play and that there will be something to be said about this other than just what it was. You know, lost is a is an example of that, where it's full of, it's a puzzle to be solved, but at the end of the day it's saying something about something and it's a bigger, it's a bigger picture story and in terms of where it lands. So I wonder about that. I'm very curious what you guys might think about that piece.
Speaker 2:So, bob, we have another question from the audience. But before we do that, I just wanted to say we're talking season three with Bob Mann, who played Frank, and again, if you want to hit that subscribe button, we're trying to get to 510 followers. But Bidley had another question. Jasmine's bloodstain disappeared as well. I was wondering if Bob thinks it could be just an error or would it be intentional? I think we kind of covered that.
Speaker 4:I don't know. I think for something like that you're accusing wardrobe of not doing something like because with the script I think well, oh, I thought you were frozen Bob.
Speaker 3:No, I'm just thinking with a script supervisor.
Speaker 4:They're going to notice that kind of thing.
Speaker 3:It's so it's such a fun. It's such a fun thing in a way too, and I look I want to before we, before we talk about that question, I just I just want to say that I've had some moments in my moments I've thought about some of my prior uh appearances on this podcast with you, lovely folks, where I've thought maybe I've been a little bit hard on people who have these interesting theories about things and when I've heard about those theories and I've gone yeah, I know that there's not that much exactness to how a line gets read by a uh an actor, let's say, and the actor doesn't even know which of their takes is going to get used in the edit and things like that.
Speaker 3:But you know, I've thought about that and and with this kind of show in particular, I, I've, I've come to believe that that there probably is room to to go. Oh no, I maybe set deck and props, and you know that there might be some bigger. You know some sort of macro planning around. Okay, let's put these little Easter eggs in here. Let's put some little things on the wall that people will pick up. There's something kind of escape room fun-ish about that.
Speaker 3:And I worry that maybe I've been a little bit too cranky about some of the more fun and wacky fan theories that bump up against what I understand to be the realities of making a show like actually make.
Speaker 2:I have to deal with this on a podcast by podcast basis. Yeah, yeah, next to me, cause she thinks every single pen, every cup, if it's moved for one inch, it means that is the one piece of the puzzle that has been missing. So please, as much as you're trying to save your reputation, don't. I deal with this all day and I love her.
Speaker 4:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:That doesn't mean I have to wake her.
Speaker 4:Your life is just a hell. It's just hell. It is. I feel so bad for you.
Speaker 3:But when you read a novel, the writer has 100% control. I mean, you know, lizzie right, the writer has 100% control over what the reader is exposed to, how they interpret it. Okay, maybe you don't have any control over that.
Speaker 3:But what you put in, what you leave out, what you say, if you've got easter eggs or references that might give clues, or whatever you've got, you know you are the god of that universe and if something's there, it's because you put it there. If it's not there, it's because you, you left it out, whereas there's so many people involved in making a show and bringing it to life. The continuity demands of of something like we've got to make sure that you know although although they take it very, very seriously, like I'm, I'm I really do believe that they do. And if, if there's a, if there's a monster that had bullet holes in its shirt and that the intention was for that to carry over, because that consistency is important that that creature would have bullet holes in its shirt, I believe that in my, in my heart. I don't think that there's necessarily a costume error there. My first instinct is that if you're seeing it, it's because they meant for it to be there, especially in a show like this.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, like I, I, it's a puzzle show, so it's like every frame, every word matters, placement matters, so that's the whole thing. And like when you were talking about the Stephen King thing, I remember the first time I read that I think it was a review of a book, one of his book releases or whatever, and they were talking about how it connected to a couple other of his books and I'm like, oh my God, I can't like. I just checked out. I was like I can't handle that. That's too much for me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is a lot and conspiracy and a good, a really good magician I. I. It's partially a puzzle show, but I think it's also a magic trick show oh yeah where you're you're.
Speaker 3:You can be easily misled into looking one way when the the mechanics of what's making the trick work are happening in your periphery, because you've been distracted to look to the right of the magician instead of the left, and a really good magician will play with your expectations. Know where you're going, would know where your eyes are going to be drawn. Yeah, have something else going on, and the great thing about a tv show is that some of that can happen, happen off screen.
Speaker 3:Some of it can be implied, things can happen that you don't see and so there may be things that there are no frames to inspect um to to tell you the the, the secret. It may be something bigger and and more broad. That, yeah, that's all I'll say about it.
Speaker 2:I stopped at this next section just because we were talking about the bottles and the only other section after this is just Boyd. But this is kind of an important thing. This is where all the messages are.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And this is where Victor and and um you know goes victor oh my god, why tabitha? Tabitha, I know you've never podcasted on the show before I know I've never seen it all.
Speaker 4:I look at this and I'm like, wow, I want to do this to one of my trees in the backyard.
Speaker 3:Hang bottles. Hang bottles, there's messages, that's terrifying.
Speaker 4:It is terrifying, oh my God, especially when the wind gets whipping down here. It'd be nothing but broken glass back there.
Speaker 3:That's right. I wonder how none of these bottles get busted.
Speaker 3:Yes, I wonder if they have to take them down and put them back up every time they shoot a scene there oh, yeah, although some of it might be, and I think so, but I think there's a, there's a possibility that some of that tree bottle stuff is done in studio. Oh, I don't know. I do know a lot of the, a lot of the interior stuff that you see is done in studio. It's not happening in the town, although I I can't I personally can't say which parts are and which parts are, um, but but I know that there's a fair bit of work done to try to preserve and contain what they're what they're doing, from what I, from what I understand and from what I saw when I was there. But yeah, no, it's, uh, it's, it's a cool, really, really cool, uh, really cool set piece.
Speaker 2:So, guys, do you want to see the second trailer?
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, yes, absolutely Refresh us.
Speaker 2:Okay, and you're listening to our podcast. We're going to do season three, second trailer. Here we go. Who's in the?
Speaker 3:bush Snow yeah.
Speaker 4:She's safe.
Speaker 2:Winter is coming.
Speaker 4:You did the only thing you could do, and you lost. Who was wearing black pants. We're still in this thing. We have no idea what we're dealing with.
Speaker 2:I love this.
Speaker 4:Our poor Kenny Like this. I'm like what the Like. Is that a jamestown? Survivor yeah, nothing that I've been to is possible.
Speaker 1:If you're here for what's in the basement, this is important.
Speaker 4:This place will not break us.
Speaker 1:I mean, those are creepy, but the only way we go home is together. Hello, Like what your friend?
Speaker 3:Bob, yeah, it's my pal Sarah. Yeah, together, like what your friend Bob, that's my pal Sarah. Yeah. Oh, you know her.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, it's great. I love that this is so small town, halifax.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's interesting too. How are we back in this house? The house fell down, that's not the house. It's not.
Speaker 4:That's the church. No, where Jim is standing and the phone rings. Wait a minute. Yeah, no, that's Mrs Lou's house, that's Mrs Lou's house.
Speaker 2:Oh, this scares the crap.
Speaker 4:There's your other buddy.
Speaker 2:You can't save them all.
Speaker 4:She scares the crap out of me.
Speaker 3:It's like what the hell is going on. Yeah, I know Sarah. Sarah and I have been a bunch of things together and Nathan Simmons and I are pals and we go back. And Eli, who plays young Victor yeah, Eli's great.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know Eli, we've talked to him a couple of times. Yeah, it's a lot of. It's probably. I would say it's probably one of. I mean, then, we've had a number of shows here that have have have provided some cool opportunities for local people, but I, I um, I know that I think this show is probably one of the ones that really stands out for, for giving some really cool and meaty opportunities to do some interesting and different, different things instead of just and I'm not casting aspersions on other shows Other shows have been great, but you know to do, to do certain people, to do a little bit more than just. You know man, man, number three, who talks to that person when they come to the checkout of the grocery store or whatever. Right, and again, those little, those, those parts are important, but but from has been different, it's been, it's been cool.
Speaker 2:I will say you know two things. One, as much as the strike is absolutely awful, I think it's actually been helping this show because they had to go into winter. That's the first thing. The second thing is the problem with this show not that it's a problem is the kids are getting older faster than the show, right, and that's a real problem, because the boy in white should not be older, and he is. You know time still passes. And Victor is, you know time still passes and Victor's. You know Eli is still growing, yeah, and it's. That's the only bad part about it, and I know this isn't the first show that's had this problem, but you know you get around.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Well I mean, but the thing is they can use that for the lore of this little town that these kids continue to grow. Relationships change because we know that the relationship between the Matthews parents is improving, the whole Matthews family cohesion has increased, Like they've healed from the death of the baby. But then you look at other relationships that have just fallen apart, like Sarah and her brother. You know, like she was, she just has devolved into insanity.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:But and then, where you would think that Christy and Marielle would revel in being reunited, instead their old problems have followed them to this little town.
Speaker 2:Absolutely they would.
Speaker 4:I think it's interesting how it's picking and choosing who gets better and who gets worse. Interesting how it's picking and choosing who gets better and who gets worse, whereas victor, victor um boyd and and, uh, ellis went to a really tough time and they've come back and healed from that. Yeah, so it's just.
Speaker 2:It's interesting how this town is affecting different factions of it yeah so, although mrs lou and kenny seem tight, okay, so I want to show you this lizzie. You're not gonna like this, but bitly says don't you say anything about my m Lou.
Speaker 4:Get that off of there right now.
Speaker 2:I'm not, don't even say that, I was thinking it. We love Liz. I was thinking it, we love Liz and we don't want her to not be on the show. Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:Because she has had some of the most emotional scenes possible and she could be one of the keys to getting out, because she's the keeper of the most emotional scenes possible and she could be one of the keys to getting out because she's the keeper of the back, the back row. Yeah, that's right, it's not looking good for mrs lou right now, although I will.
Speaker 3:So I will say suzy said something I think really important there and in her last comment about how, um, the, the phone that you see ringing, is the same one that rang in Kenny's dream. So I can't recall if there are any moments like this in season one, but season two definitely establishes a precedent for the viewer seeing things that are happening either in in the mind of of a character or in a sort of sleep state, nightmare and Elm street type, type type thing, and so and and really I I think there might be some. I think maybe this is debunked a little bit by the newest trailer, the one we just watched, but you know the the possibility that Tabitha is just out. Out of it. She's not out. There's no way.
Speaker 3:I don't mean out of from, I mean out cold. Oh yeah, right, and that we might see Tabitha out cold and they may find her and bring her back to the town and not know. She may not be dead, she may just be unconscious, but that there's a whole experience that Tabitha is having unconsciously that we see playing out, not unlike Elgin in the bathtub or these different characters that are. Boyd has quite a number of visions in season two that appear and seem to him to be quite real but turn out to be maybe something else, we don't know. The trailer may be littered with shots, and shots of things that are not relevant or in the right place.
Speaker 3:I swear to god if they kill my Mrsrs lou, I don't even know I I won't even be able to be held accountable for my reaction you're not going to do nothing, you're going to keep watching and no, you're wrong bob, you're going to take what the show gives you, and that's how it's going to work. We all know this. That's how it's going to work. We all know this. That's how it's going to go.
Speaker 2:So, just so you know, to make your feelings worse.
Speaker 3:Todd with his sneakers and white bottoms. I mean, it might just be a person, it could be a wrestler.
Speaker 4:It might be an extra.
Speaker 2:It could be a wrestler right. It might be an extra.
Speaker 4:Yeah, right it might be an extra someone we don't even know yeah, boyd.
Speaker 3:Just boyd messed something up or tried to protect. I mean, you, do you do see these scenes where boyd is tussling with the creatures you know? Maybe maybe there's some collateral damage or someone. Someone gets taken out and it's not. You know, it's not a big character, but it may just be somebody else. We don't know. We haven't seen a lot of it. It's at the bottom of everybody's feet.
Speaker 2:There is a new character, though it's a police officer.
Speaker 4:Yes, I keep forgetting about her. Oh my gosh, is she the last player to show up in this game? Nobody knew showed up, or did she replace Kanna?
Speaker 3:Nobody knew showed up before the end of season two, right? No, just the boss at the beginning and then yeah, that was it. Right right?
Speaker 2:Well, we got a couple of different things I want to show you.
Speaker 3:I just want to get some yeah, give us some blow our minds okay.
Speaker 2:So for those of you that, like the walking dead, we've got the heads on our bodies in wood, on sticks, or, if you're into um, plenty of the apes, they had the big x's for the forbidden zone. That also it um, and we have that, which is kind of weird.
Speaker 4:We have the guy drinking the, the blood but I think that is just jade hallucinating I don't know, there oh yeah, so she appears real and she's new, yeah and she's trying to use a gun which is useless.
Speaker 3:Right so she's?
Speaker 4:she's a noob, so to speak I mean, she's not even thinking about having to account for the bullets she uses to. You know her yeah.
Speaker 2:Waste Boss, fatima is coughing up a lot.
Speaker 4:I think she's losing a tooth.
Speaker 2:I don't know what she's doing.
Speaker 4:I mean, look at her fingers, they're bloody.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she pulled something out.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think it's a tooth, baby tooth Okay.
Speaker 2:Wait, I'll show you Baby tooth. Okay, wait, I'll go back.
Speaker 4:Wait a minute and the guy has jade by the collar.
Speaker 3:Am I losing my mind here?
Speaker 2:Does the guy who has jade by the collar look like he's wearing Tom's?
Speaker 4:clothes. It's the guy that was drinking out of the skull, but I see what you mean.
Speaker 3:Oh really.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker 3:Show us the guy who was drinking out of the skull again. When does that happen?
Speaker 4:Was that in the last one or this one?
Speaker 3:No, it's in this one for sure. It's back near the beginning, sorry.
Speaker 4:There he is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's got the beard.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's Because, look, there's the vest with the sleeves coming out.
Speaker 3:He's got the weird pantaloons and he's got he's got the old timey tie and he looks like he's from the late 1700s, like maybe he's he's like, that's exactly what I said, Bob. He's Alexander Hamilton.
Speaker 4:You know what? He's almost dressed like the angel in. It's a Wonderful Life.
Speaker 2:Sure Also, just to make Lizzie feel even worse.
Speaker 4:Yes, shut up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, parallel. Yeah, thanks, spidey. Yeah, that's exactly what they would do there.
Speaker 4:Oh, my God no.
Speaker 2:Terrible.
Speaker 4:Stop it, stop it, no, no, she cannot die. She cannot die.
Speaker 3:Anyone can die. Anything goes. No, no, no, anyone can die.
Speaker 4:No, I refuse that. See, that's her sitting right there in the mustard colored jacket on the right.
Speaker 2:It's winter, it's winter, it's winter. I love you to death. Lizzie, I think you're smoking crack. That woman is too big to be. Mrs Liu Right, why would she not be next to Kenny? Where's Kenny In the front?
Speaker 4:row right here. You think, but maybe Maybe.
Speaker 2:Maybe because she showed up late. Yeah, okay, she was making.
Speaker 4:She was making tea but who's the one in in the daryl looking poncho thing on the right? Who is that?
Speaker 2:right there no on the point the daryl that the poncho that's Christy Looks like Christy. You've got Donna Christy. Jade, somebody's next to him. You got Tilly. This is the boy Ethan Yep, ethan Jim. That's all Matthew's Jim who's ever left of the Matthews family. I can't zoom into this right now, but yeah, the gang's all there.
Speaker 3:Maybe it's just mass.
Speaker 4:What if they hallucinate, father Cotri, like they all hallucinate, father Cotri.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good way of maybe, maybe. Yeah, I know the plate on the altar is the key.
Speaker 4:I just can't zoom in on it. Hmm, I damn it. I think that's the same plate that's on whatever altered is at the house where she is mourning Mr Liu.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's it. We figured it out. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Okay, guys, the show's over. We figured it all out, that's it yeah.
Speaker 4:Damn it, damn it to the pits of hell. I am telling you no Very important.
Speaker 2:It could just be a dream. It could be a dream, or could just be a dream.
Speaker 4:Could, be a dream, or it could be a juke. Or it's a juke, it's a juke, that's exactly it.
Speaker 3:It's meant to mislead us.
Speaker 2:So Bitly. Thank you so much for making my life a living hell. It is. It has nothing to do with the fact that you burst that bubble. Now I'm going to be getting phone calls and texts. Why did they?
Speaker 4:do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4:You know what, Alex. You lobbied for this.
Speaker 2:I know you did this to me, I'm not trying to be funny. Somebody, some major character, had to die you know what.
Speaker 4:There are a few people I'd be okay with.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just saying I mean, and that's the problem, that's harsh, it is harsh, but you know, to make the story better you have to have some buy-in that way yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm not okay with this.
Speaker 2:I'm not okay either, but it's the reality. I don't think anybody died in season two who died in season two?
Speaker 4:well, abby, oh wait a minute. Season two no smiley then it doesn't count.
Speaker 3:We've had this conversation about smiley. Smiley's not a character, smiley's a force of nature.
Speaker 2:Like, okay, first off, I love this part of it just because of one reason. It's like, dude, you didn't think this was real. Well, now go for.
Speaker 3:Oh tom tom oh tom, of course, buddy, come on, that's right. Well, I'm gonna if breed, if that gets back, I'm gonna hear about this.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know what I'm gonna have to make a clip just to put it on Instagram, just to tag him. Yeah, I've earned it. I love this. I just want to play this for a second. He's like what is going on? Wait, wait, they go back to it. You can't save them all. I guess I missed it, but I think that line is going to be really important. You can't save them all.
Speaker 4:That is Boyd's big problem. He fixes everything. He fixes everything he has to Losing fishes, everything he fixes everything.
Speaker 3:He has those and fishes, but up until up until this point, that's been sort of Boyd's issue with himself, right, and and it's a carryover from his losing his wife and and he clearly has this, you know you, these, you know classic sort of characters who have this sort of all everything is resting on my shoulders and okay, that's okay, that's great, that's fine, it does. It does seem like there's a tone change in this season where the, the creatures have gotten live to that and creatures have gotten live to that and and they're acknowledging boyd's role and and self-appointment as the, as the sheriff and the leader of these people and their savior sounds like they're.
Speaker 3:They're goading him a little bit. They're like, oh you, you're the, you're the guy.
Speaker 4:Oh, okay, well, let's you know, let's show you how you're not yeah, let let's see about that, right which? I.
Speaker 3:I, I can only, I can only imagine is sort of incited by the, the moment where he, you know, he infects Smiley. Yeah, it's the only, it's the only moment we've seen where a character takes on one of those creatures directly and kind of gets gets the upper hand literally over them, and so it's, you know, there's something to that that that's.
Speaker 2:uh, you know, those are the do you think smiley's gonna come back at all?
Speaker 3:I don't know. I'm gonna say that I don't know.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just saying no, I don't. Oh, okay, is that? Is that your like prediction? You don't know, or you're just trying to?
Speaker 3:Well, I don't know. I think it would be interesting if here's what I'll say. If they bring Smiley back, I hope that it's in a vision or a flashback- I don't know.
Speaker 3:That's my hope, because and I think I've said this before, I think I've said it in conversations about whether Frank should come back I think it's nice to see a performer or a character. I liked it in season two. I liked seeing Reed again. I liked seeing Sean Majumder on screen. Again I liked seeing them come back. But for me it's important for our establishment of what this world is about and what happens. The stakes suddenly become very different when someone can literally come back to life.
Speaker 2:I love how they're bringing Sean back life.
Speaker 3:I I love how they're bringing sean back. Yeah, yeah, I I have no, I have no real, no real issue with with that. I think. I think that that's fine, but it's kind of like what happens in um, I don't know, I'm going to say comic books, but it's kind of like what happens in comic books. When a character gets resurrected, it it changes the stakes. You go, oh, someone can die, and maybe they don't stay dead but this is, but they're not alive.
Speaker 4:Alive, I think if they brought him back, it would give them a sense of hopelessness, in that they can't take down the numbers of the monsters, they just regenerate back into that certainly, yeah, it would certainly do that.
Speaker 3:It would. It would be. It would be a new piece of information that I it would be a new piece of information that I personally find a little bit less interesting. Yeah, like if, if there's let's put it this way if there is, if there is finality to the monsters, if the monsters can die and they can be killed, then suddenly the, the, the script has changed for them. Yeah, then it becomes a real. So it's not like a, it's not like a vampire thing, you know, know.
Speaker 3:Let's look at the Walking Dead. I mean, the creatures in the Walking Dead don't seem to be driven by a desperate need for self-preservation. They're not defensive in that way. They're just trying to find human flesh to tear apart. That's all they're trying to do. They don't build barricades, they don't, you know, they don't go on the offensive strategically. They're just. They're just a herd of of killing things. Right, you don't ever seem to be all that bothered by the fact that they can have their heads chopped off and be killed. They're more like animals, whereas these creatures seem to be something different. Yeah, and so I like to think, for example, that Smiley being taken out would be a really, really big deal for these creatures well, but it didn't seem to be.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, like this guy has figured out how to, how to take somebody out. This is a big deal. Like to me, that. To me, that changes the game of the show in a more interesting way than just saying, oh hey, guess what, guys, you can, guys, you can't kill us, we're back.
Speaker 2:It's like he's waiting for Fatima to give birth. That's awesome. And then we do have another question for you, Bob, since you were on the show. Did you wake up?
Speaker 3:in your own bed after the monsters got you. Yeah, I don't know. I only know you know. I'm going to take the question seriously, although I think it's a bit tongue in cheek. The, the, there's, no, there's no script. There was no page of script that says and then Frank Pratt wakes up in his bed back in the world Alive.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:There's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no moment right I'm. I am as in the dark as the viewer is as to what actually happens to people in this world.
Speaker 2:I don't know well, harold's got his new campaign with that new bourbon. So I'm telling you right now, I gotta get me some, because I think that this is gonna be crazy, crazy, crazy, because we're gonna be you gotta start drinking I don't drink, but I think we should start um. Yeah, we're at the top of the hour, young lady.
Speaker 3:Yeah, bob yeah oh, I thought you wanted to say something no, I said, that's right, we're at the top of the air. I don't know what your, what your time, what your time constraints are, but well, we're not.
Speaker 4:We're not going to take advantage of you this time. Not this time, not this time. So, bob, what is it that you're working on? What have you got going on for yourself?
Speaker 3:A number of things. So our local film festival starts next week and I'm in a number of projects. I'm in a live script reading a week from tomorrow with a group of other actors and we're doing a number of scenes from rom-coms from the 90s, things like that. Oh, that sounds fun. You've got Mail when Harry Met Sally the Birdcage. We're doing a bunch of them, so that's going to be a fun, silly thing.
Speaker 3:I'm in a short film that's debuting a week from tonight, called gaslit, which is kind of a horror comedy thing, and I think I posted a the the trailer for that, so you can see that on my on my instagram. And I'm in a feature film that debuts next week at our film festival called Sharp Corner, which has a bunch of local people, including Reed and a bunch of other people who you'll know Some people from the From universe and some others which is going to be a really cool movie. Working on a variety show uh, thing for for bell. I've got a number of stand-up comedy dates coming up in the next month and a whole bunch of stuff, a bunch of things.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you're always busy, like you're always like, you're here, there and everywhere yeah, you gotta stay busy or you get in trouble.
Speaker 3:That's how. And then you gotta you gotta stay in smokes, which is what we say in the old country. You gotta find out a way, figure it away. Stay in cigarettes so that's. You just gotta keep working, keep working, keep doing stuff stop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you stop, you die yeah, that's right, so well, thanks that's awesome, bob I know I'm like really upset that I couldn't come and see you in halifax so I could get the descent tour next time you're, next time you're through.
Speaker 3:If you're close enough, just you know, swing up and we'll, I'll take you on the tour I know I, I heard the gift shop is really good. The one gift shop we have here in halifax is just yeah, it's fantastic. Yeah, one, one, one guy that stands out next to you stands there Well folks.
Speaker 2:I want to thank Bob, along with Lizzie, because we are gearing up. We've got. We've got Donna, aka Liz Saunders, the award-winning, amazing, amazing queen of from Tomorrow is Saturday, what's today? Saturday, the 8th Today's Friday 11 am, so we're having donuts with Donna. Then we're going to also work with one of Bob's other friends, Nathan.
Speaker 4:Simmons, he's on the 8th, Tell Simmons.
Speaker 3:I said hey, smarten up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, smarten up.
Speaker 3:No context. Don't tell him what I meant by that, just tell him.
Speaker 2:I don't even know. So it's great. We will definitely tell him to smarten up. Yeah, it's going to be exciting and whenever you want to come back, hopefully you can do our end of season wrap up. Yeah. Get some of your other buddies to come on with you and we can have a super duper.
Speaker 4:I love that you do this with us, Bob. I just love this.
Speaker 3:It's super fun. I love it. I love how it's such a neat little community is built up around this show and people here appreciate it and the show, people involved making the show appreciate it. And in this day and age, you know, with there being so many shows and so many things to watch and the landscape being so scattered and so wide, any show that has a following and has people who love it and watch it and talk about it is to be greatly appreciated. And so and I think most people, pretty much everybody involved kind of feels that way Very grateful to be involved in a show that has that people have gotten excited about, they really enjoy talking about and you guys are a big part of that are a big part of that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, that's, that's so nice. Like I am, just I'm excited that we have made it to season three um. After looking at those trailers, they would really have to drop the ball to screw up season three um, and I'm grateful to mgm for giving them, you know, these legs to run on because you know it is truly the most amazing show that nobody is watching and a lot of people are right, a lot of people are watching now.
Speaker 3:That's kind of the point Growing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like I'm excited to see what happens with season three and viewership. But you know, alex and I think we had six drawings and then this last season, I believe, for season two, we had 12. So now I'm wondering what season three is going to be like when we do our contest. But we are running out of lunch boxes, that much I can tell you. So, yeah, oh, and you're, we can't hear you.
Speaker 2:I just wanted to say we're about three away from 500 followers. Let's go.
Speaker 4:It's a follower drive, everybody it's a follower drive.
Speaker 2:And if you want to support the podcast and really how can you not want to? We do have our poster, our tribute poster to season one. Bob man is in the trailer in the box. We made sure in the box in the box and we made sure that Kirk put you in there. I did Daughter, she was very upset that she wasn't on doing her prayers and we made sure that Kirk put you in there. I did talk to your daughter. She was very upset that she wasn't on doing her prayers. She actually messaged me. She's like you're missing me.
Speaker 2:I'm like I am missing you, but we can only have so many people.
Speaker 3:It's so entitled these days.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you I know.
Speaker 4:But you know um just a few words about this. Um Kirk Manley is this incredibly talented artist? Yeah, it's beautiful um, you know this is the first, uh, the first poster. It is one of a kind Um and we are getting low in numbers on them. So if you want them, you just have to go to Etsy and just find the what Is From shop and you can get one. I'll mail it out this week if you order it very soon. Very cool.
Speaker 2:Yes, so that said, bob, we want to thank you so much.
Speaker 3:As usual, you don't disappoint you always get a piece of from that we didn't understand and we will see you see you in a few months where we're talking about how, how we just can't believe that the whole show has happened inside of a snow globe. Don't even say that. So shocked, shocked. We'll be like, wow, where did that come from?
Speaker 2:That's what we're not doing Saying elsewhere. Baby, see you next time, see you next time. Get your home, let's go, come on. Get in your house, let's go, come on.
