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FROM is BACK! Season 3 premiere Episode 1 "Shatter"
Alex and Lizzie are ready to breakdown all the that you need for this episode live reaction to the premiere of FROM Season 3, Episode 1, titled "Shatter." In this episode, we dive into the tense, mysterious, and emotional events that set the tone for the season. We share our thoughts on Tabitha’s cliffhanger, Jim and Kenny's unsettling adventure in the woods, and Mrs. Liu's terrifying encounter with the monsters. Plus, we talk about the unexpected twists that leave everyone questioning what’s real and what’s from. With over 570 subscribers and counting, we’re gearing up for a wild season filled with suspense, emotion, and, of course, pancakes. Buckle up as we dissect the chilling moments, fan theories, and major story arcs.
We also have a special guest in this episode—Liz Moy, aka Mrs. Liu, who shares her behind-the-scenes experiences and thoughts on her character’s journey. Trust us, you don't want to miss her insights! Tune in as we unravel the mysteries, discuss fan reactions, and speculate on what lies ahead.
Timeline Summary:
[00:00] - Kicking off the live reaction and celebrating the growing From fanbase
[02:00] - A tribute to Season 1 with the exclusive Kirk Manley poster
[03:00] - The terrifying start to Season 3: Mrs. Liu’s struggles and first thoughts on the episode
[05:00] - Tabitha’s cliffhanger: Escaping the hospital and questions about her reality
[10:00] - Jim and Kenny’s eerie adventure in the woods, encountering mysterious stick skeletons
[17:00] - Monsters up close: Discussing the new terrifying villains, including the cowboy and professor-like figure
[35:00] - Special guest appearance: Liz Moy, aka Mrs. Liu, shares behind-the-scenes moments and her thoughts on the new season’s direction
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Speaker 2:And welcome to the show. My name is Alex, and what's your name?
Speaker 3:Lizzie.
Speaker 2:We are what Is Fromcast and we are back. We are back from the battle and Sunday is From Day. Folks, if you guys are waiting, anticipating like we have, we have finally made it and we've got our from Elise shirt, we've got our subscribers and, thanks to you, and we've got our poster, which I'm going to show in just a minute. Folks, I want to thank you so much because we are at over 570 subscribers and we've got our talismans ready and hopefully by the end of tonight we can be at 600 uh subscribers and if you want to, you can just hit that subscribe button right on the right-hand side. Tell a friend, do all that good stuff. But, as Lizzie showed, we have a tribute poster to Season 1 right here. That's done by Kirk Manley and if you want to get that, you can go right to the what Is From shop. And if you want to get some details On Etsy.
Speaker 3:It's on Etsy.
Speaker 2:It's on Etsy. I know what Is From shop. It's on Etsy. It's on Etsy, I know what is from shop. Yeah, it's right there, popped up everything else you can go to what is from. We do have a special guest that's going to be popping in and after you watch the show tonight, she is the person that we want to talk to, and that is Liz Moy, aka Mrs Lou, and I've got my pancake ready and we are ready to go, so hopefully we've got our really scary mask, and I just want to thank everybody, from all the Pycastica people to all the Front people to. I see Daphne is there and I'm just going to show what she has to say, which is, oh my God, it could not be any better. I mean, we were waiting. Winter is coming and it has come. And, lizzie, what was your first thoughts of this episode?
Speaker 3:It just was so much. It's definitely turned on its side and I'm excited to move forward with this. But you know, after tonight I'm really sad because I don't know what we're going to do without that drug, tea and pancakes. Well, you can get through this life.
Speaker 2:Hopefully you don't riot because Mrs Lou is got some serious issues and she's a tough old broad but I don't know if she's no one wants to be called abroad.
Speaker 2:I'm going to tell you right now my grandma was a tough old broad and let me tell you something this woman has probably seen more in life than anything else and she is, hopefully she's going to be strong, but she doesn't look very good right now and after seeing the preview, um the two trailers, I don't know if she's going to survive past tonight. But, folks, we would love to hear from you. I know I see some things. You know this is a great comment. I love, love this. The bar has raised. What did you think? I mean, we had a writer's strike, which I know was awful. It could not have been any worse. I know you had a personal vested interest in it, but I got to tell you, in terms of bringing it, they were bringing it, yeah.
Speaker 3:And you know what, alex, since we have Liz Moy joining us at 1030, I'd like to get into the episode, because we've got 30 minutes and you know that's not going to be enough time for me.
Speaker 2:Okay, that said, where do you want to start?
Speaker 3:I want to start with tabitha, since she is away from everybody else um and she was the big cliffhanger.
Speaker 2:She was the big cliffhanger of season zero.
Speaker 3:She was um. So there was a lot of talk and I saw a lot of it it in the last couple of days about her face not being the reflection in the window. So not sure if that still matters or not, but Tabitha goes on the run because her doctor has notified the police, which only makes sense, since Tabitha is not giving up much information and they don't know who she is. And you know she's just been brought in. So she leaves the hospital and not you know, after she finds out that she's in Camden Maine.
Speaker 2:So Nothing good happens in Maine, Isn't that right, Daphne? I mean, you got Stephen King, lots of trees and it's scary as crap there.
Speaker 3:Well, LL Bean is in Maine.
Speaker 2:True, but I mean, you know, the scariest player ever is from Maine and, with the exception of Lobster Rolls and our friend Daphne, it's pretty and Gritty's. Of course I know Maine is stellar.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to, not gonna, it is stellar. I like Maine. So, um, she goes walking through Camden and comes across a vintage sale and there's two girls like trying on stuff, so she manages to use a phone. Now I don't know why she called her mom.
Speaker 2:Well, she's the only person that she remembers the phone number.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, it could be it. I was thinking that too. I'm like how many phone numbers do I know I got one better for you.
Speaker 2:The big question is is she at a from, and probably that's what she's trying to figure out?
Speaker 3:the weird thing is is that the mom anchors her in the real world but yet she's seeing the boy in white. So it's like she brought from with her if she's in the real world but but she has to be. Because she realizes by talking to the priest that she has Victor's home address that's written inside the lunchbox, and so she goes to Victor's house and actually sees Victor's dad who and I looked that address up.
Speaker 2:It doesn't exist, thankfully although I know those poor people, if it did I know.
Speaker 3:I mean, we have the exorcist house that's down the street from where I live and thankfully that movie did not take off so they're not being bothered, but at any rate um you really think it's victor's dad, huh. I do think it's Victor's dad. I I'm pretty sure he said something about Victor, about he said my son had that lunchbox. So at any rate, just that.
Speaker 2:Wait, let me just clarify something. Folks, I do love Maine. I just actually went up there A couple of weeks ago. I just think that it's funny that they're in Maine and you've got Stephen King who's been saying a lot of great things about Maine. You know about this show and I just like to To. I just think it's funny, that's all. I don't know why. I just find it funny that you, that's all. I don't know why. I just find it funny that you know bad things happen in the middle of the woods and well, they do, god.
Speaker 3:I mean. I lived a town in Massachusetts that was like a Stephen King town waiting to happen, Like so. I mean dark and creepy, and actually the forest there has some serious issues, paranormal issues, but anyway. So I'm looking at Victor's dad and he gets out of the car. He's grumpy because there's someone hanging out at his house and it kind of makes you think that it's not unusual for him to come home and find a stranger there that wants something to do with something to do with his family.
Speaker 2:But he's walking in with a six pack of beer and I would too, if my whole life has been teared apart the way it's been he wasn't walking in with more alcohol.
Speaker 3:So you know, the way that he takes her seriously is when he notices the lunchbox and he remembers that victor had that lunchbox it's.
Speaker 2:It's just so funny how victor's character went from they're gonna kill him off in season one to being the king of this whole entire thing. Yeah, and it's all because of scott. I mean, scott has been killing it and I just think it's really amazing how he has developed this character and and Frumily, you know, it's all due to you guys just loving him and what he's doing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, like he last season. He just had some amazing scenes and with Jade and you know it was. He was just wonderful. But things that I want to mention about this little piece is that she says she went through a tree that took her to a lighthouse where a boy pushed her out and she wound up there. Doesn't that sound like a kid's game? Like I can't remember if it shoots in ladders or Candyland, but it's like you do this and then you end up here and then you go. You know what I mean, and I'm just thinking here she is carrying Victor's lunchbox. We've got the boy in white, two boys, you know, you know. The other thing is that she says you know nothing that she's been through is possible, which I think is. It's like how do you?
Speaker 2:say that to someone now that you're back in the real world. And again, for those of you that just have watched it or are listening to us on the replay, we're talking about looking for religion, for answers. She's speaking to Father Whoever in the confessional and she's trying to explain this whole thing, and it sounds bizarre.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it does. Like you know, I can't get back there. No one can leave.
Speaker 2:What's that? And she wants to go back to a place that she doesn't want to go back to.
Speaker 3:And she can't get there because her family is trapped. But the thing about it is, if you can't leave, why is she sitting there? So that's, that doesn't make sense. Is she sitting there? So that's that doesn't make sense. If you were the stranger that she was telling the story to, you'd be like but you're here. You said you couldn't get out. But you're here, that doesn't make any sense. So, and you don't know exactly how to get back in. I mean, unless you see that tree, that's it. So that is about all I have to say about Tabitha this week.
Speaker 2:And I'd like to switch over to Jim and Kenny, if that's okay. Yeah, jim and Kenny's Great Adventures I like to call it.
Speaker 3:I know, yeah, they're going on a big adventure.
Speaker 2:They went on a walkabout, a little hikeabout.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh yeah, they're going on a big walkabout a little little hike about yeah, and before they go, because Jim's going out there to look for Tabitha, you know we start the episode. Ethan's been out in the woods and you know he's found. Mrs Lou has got him. She's like dragging him by the jacket, he's screaming, and you know, and Julie is worried about him and you know they can't be going out into those woods. So Jim gets advice from Boyd who says, you know, advises them to start and return at the stone hut every night. And you know, wake up there in the morning when you see the spider webs, you're on the right track and you can't miss them because they're everywhere. And then remember about the trees. Do you remember about the trees? I'm drawing a blank on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I do remember about the trees a little bit.
Speaker 3:The hideaway? Oh, it must be the faraway trees he meant yeah okay, and then just get inside by dark. So they're walking along and they haven't noticed yet that they haven't seen any spider webs, and all of a sudden they come across these stick skeletons, you know, with a carved head, you know, and birds have nested in them.
Speaker 3:And just, you know, they see one, then they see another and then they see more. And they're kind of leading into this little clearing where there's three very old cabins that are quite solid, and my thoughts on those skeletons was that they were scarecrows for the monsters.
Speaker 2:You know, the really sad part is I actually have a screenshot of it, but it won't. Let me pull it up, because it would really be helpful to pull it up.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, we all just watched the episode.
Speaker 2:No, I know, I just wanted to show how effing scary they were they are scary.
Speaker 3:They really are scary. At first I thought the first time I saw it I mean, I think I've seen the episode three times and the first time I saw it well, wait a minute. The episode three times and the first time I saw well, wait a minute. They were in the trailer too. I thought they were made of bone. I thought they were skeletons, like real human skeletons. I'm just thinking what the heck is going on there. Um, so, um, I know but so they.
Speaker 3:I just I don't know. They just freaked me out and I was trying to figure out. I'm like those are cabins. They're still standing. They're like probably several hundred years old. They're like probably several hundred years old. And I went back and looked at the staircase in the tower with all the years scratched in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and.
Speaker 3:I'm thinking I was actually I was trying to, I was mapping it up while I was waiting to start. I was trying to figure out if there was a pattern with the years. But they can't be 1506 because there weren't people building cabins in. Well, maybe there were. We could. They could be the old west and it's 1883, but they were clustered together, I think, for safety. Um, there wasn't a barn that we could see or anything like that. So right.
Speaker 2:Oh, I got the heads. I just want to show you this. Yeah, you can keep going, it's, it's still process so yeah, there they are.
Speaker 3:I think I'm trying to one head.
Speaker 2:There's that. That's the last scene yeah here it just. It reminds me so much of walking dead yeah, the heads on the spike oh, my god, I thought that's what I thought too. Um, so they stay in the cabin oh, here one of our super fans, taron, I think and schlachs on one of the yep suggested 1860. Yep suggested 1860 plus the.
Speaker 3:The hoodoo connections to Carolyn Dye makes me think so Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean they certainly could be from the 1864 era, given that you know they could have been built before that, you know, 1860-something, 1850. They've certainly survived a couple hundred years, so they're pretty sturdy. So they spend the night in one of the cabins, they put the talisman up and they're sitting there and all of a sudden they hear footsteps walking just outside the wall of the cabin and then it's like whoever's out there throws something against the wall. And it seems like just like with Boyd and Sarah, whoever it is just wanted them to know that they're not out there alone, that they're not out there alone. And the thing about it is like Boyd and Sarah didn't do it and Kenny and Jim didn't do it. They didn't get out of the. You know, go and see what was out there. They're just like sitting there, like oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. You know, it's like the first time I saw it.
Speaker 3:I'm like I think I hear a footstep and I'm freaking out. I'm like, no, I don't even know what's going to happen with Mrs Liu yet, and I'm like my Kenny, that can't happen. So, at any rate. So because that happens, jim comes to his senses and he's like I think we need to go home. I can't risk leaving my kids here alone. Like I get why he was going out there to look for his wife, but I kind of don't get why he was going out there to look for his wife when he's got two kids in this awful place, you know. So that's about all I have to say about that. Let's see sturdy clustered and dated. That's my notes on the um cabins. But yeah, so fatima is really in the throes of pregnancy.
Speaker 2:You think?
Speaker 3:Yeah, just a little bit. And you know what? There's more than one bathroom in that house, because that's not the bathroom that what's his name was.
Speaker 2:Right right right right.
Speaker 3:So why isn't Nikki going down to the other bathroom?
Speaker 2:Nikki's a pain in the ass, like she just needs to freaking.
Speaker 3:chill the hell out, cop a squat somewhere, but girl well, yeah, I got the whole outside, but at any rate I don't know why she wasn't going to the other restroom. Um, but poor fatima man like I. I thankfully have never been sick like that, but oh wait, I take that back. I had food poisoning once. That was not fun. And so Elgin has been afraid to sleep, walking around like he's in a walking coma and he finally falls asleep and he sees the kimono lady.
Speaker 2:Did you notice how long her?
Speaker 3:fingers are. Did you notice how long her fingers are All?
Speaker 2:I'm knowing Elgin is not allowed to either sleep or be near water. Okay, he's not allowed to rest, he's not allowed. And, folks, if you want to know more about Elgin and the actual actor, if you go back onto our podcast or even our youtube channel, we have a whole um hour with him and he tells us that we just did, and he does a great job of telling us how much he loves crocheting ha, ha, ha, no, and he you know, but but he doesn't.
Speaker 2:And I told him I'm like man, you do not need to be near any water and and I, you know what, not for nothing, that that ghost, whatever that thing is, it does look like and that that does look like it does.
Speaker 3:But like why was tilly in his dream, like I know they were sitting there crocheting and she was teaching him? But you know tilly's in his dream? Like I know they were sitting there crocheting and she was teaching him, but you know Tilly's in his dream and I'm wondering if that has anything to do with it. But also, when the kimono lady reached out to him, there was water dripping from her hands.
Speaker 2:And most of us agree that it's not Fatima. I'll tell you what it does look like her. I'm not saying it is her, I never believed it was her, but I just think that's a little freaky.
Speaker 3:Freaky, yeah I mean she does look close, but I mean Fatima is supposed to be Iranian and the woman I mean not that no one but a Japanese person could wear a kimono.
Speaker 2:But you know, oh yeah, no, this makes more sense. Daryl also says Tilly was in his dream because she was there when Elgin fell asleep. So it might have been that Elgin was awake doing this and then all of a sudden, when he just fell off, there came. He just fell asleep and it was like a really quick thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean that happens, that happens a lot.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:So I'm going to jump over to the food storage shortage Hold on one second, let me get to there, you're going to find the headline.
Speaker 2:Oh, I have a great headline for this. Oh my God, you guys are going to love this. Just you keep talking and we'll get to it.
Speaker 3:All right, Does it say can I order a?
Speaker 2:number two with a Coke. So can I get some fries with that shake?
Speaker 3:Can I get some? Um, so I we started to get a hint of a food issue at the harvesting. Gone bad, that's your great I have more all right so that there was a food issue at the end of last season and now we're seeing the other side of it and everything is being pulled up and it's rotted and there's nothing salvageable at all, and um so miss uh, the people end up raiding mrs lou's house, and boy are they gonna? They're gonna feel bad when they find out what happens to her.
Speaker 2:don't you mean messing with Mrs Lou?
Speaker 3:Oh my god, oh my god. They're hurting my Mrs Lou and I'm not liking that at all. They basically clean out the basement at Mrs Lou's house. The animals are looking a little too tasty. Randall goes up with a bottle of barbecue sauce and he's grabbing alma, which freaks out ethan because he likes alma and um riots for the ribs right for the ribs. Yeah, so that, like I, I don't know it. Just it, it does keep surprising me that randall is as ballsy as he is. But why would you think?
Speaker 2:I, I, you know what I. I know people are going to kill randall for that, but that's exactly who randall is. He's out for one person he is himself but.
Speaker 3:But it's like if he kills the the goat, is he going to keep all the meat for himself?
Speaker 2:it doesn't matter, we didn't get that far, I know no, just go get the goat.
Speaker 3:yeah, I mean, it makes me wonder if he would have had the stomach to butcher the goat, because, you know, killing it's one thing, but ripping it apart that's another story.
Speaker 2:The best part of that whole entire scene is yeah. Victor's got a gun.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he does have a gun. So when Randall surrenders the goat, he says they have no fucking idea and it makes me wonder what he's talking about and who is they? Who doesn't have an idea?
Speaker 2:well, I think it's, I think it's our people.
Speaker 3:I don't know. It seems a little more prophetic than that.
Speaker 2:No, he says, you have no frigging idea.
Speaker 3:No, I thought he said they.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, he says you, I'm almost positive.
Speaker 3:I don't know I'm going to beg to differ with you, but I forgot to mention that when Boyd and Donna are talking to Mrs Lou after the raid on her house, she suggests that this is a great idea. It is a great idea, see. She suggests that they plant a bunch of different gardens.
Speaker 2:You know just a little bit all over the place, kind of like what they did for hiding spots.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:And the other thing.
Speaker 3:but the thing is, donna is saying that the crops or the soil was poisoned. So it sounds like, you know, after Boyd solved the music box puzzle, it sounds like things are ratcheting up and that they are making the townspeople scared and nervous because now they're worried about not having food to eat. And you know they go out there and they're like all right, so how do we control these people? And so they poison the soil and it kills all the crops and then they're left with, you know, a certain number of animals. They still have that, but those animals are a finite resource.
Speaker 2:Right, so that's it yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2:So it's like you know, I have a question for the people in the chat and we asked this to Harold Pernell when we had him on, and that's also on our, on our podcast as well as this YouTube channel. You know, the closer this group gets together, the harder it seems to be, and when we first started, they were separated. We had Colony House and then we had the town and everybody seemed to play in harmony in terms of you know, everything was good. Now that they're starting to all work together finally, do you think love or the working together part is the thing that's going the Achilles heel of the monsters, because they don't want them to. They want them to be more separated. It sounds like I'd love to see you think what.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean they want them to turn on each other.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:And hunger is going to do that. It'll cause them to turn on each other, but also fear can drive them together, so they've got this push pull scenario going on. I forgot what I was going to say, but basically it just seems like once Boyd solved the riddle and then started screaming for anyone and anything to hear that you can't fucking break me. He put out a challenge and they were just like oh really, we can't break you.
Speaker 1:Huh, scratch the head let's see what we can do you know?
Speaker 3:so you know. It's just you know. We see boy kind of losing it a little bit. He's in the police station and he's talking to Father Khatri who looks fabulous in the afterlife.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know.
Speaker 3:And he's dressing the gunshot wound that he had I think it was all buckshot or whatever because he had several you know boo-boos there. So he puts a on, you know, puts a bandage on and he gets his shirt on and he's talking with. He's talking with Katri and he he's serving Katri is like his conscience and he tells him, you know, like he kills the guy, there's the food shortage, that he's getting old, because you know, and then people are afraid to sleep. Like he's listing all of these things that are going on in his mind. And how is he going to deal with these things?
Speaker 3:Like the pressure is building for Boyd they may not have beat him this last time, but he's beating himself. Like he's doing a number on himself. Because if you notice, like when he hears Ethan with Mrs Lou outside and he puts his jacket on, he turns, he puts his jacket on and goes to walk out. There's no cotri sitting there and it's in some like a fluid moment movement. Uh, like the camera leaves that chair for a second because boyd is putting his jacket on and he walks right by and it definitely cotri was never there. It was kind of like a very beautiful, poetic little Camera minute move.
Speaker 2:I do want to Show what people are saying about this question. So we've got John who's like the stability Is what is going to kill the monsters? In the end, they'll find one way. One way they can kill them, them, you know.
Speaker 3:Well, boy boy did kill one exactly with the blood or whatever yeah, um, but boy, I can't remember. Gosh, I just saw this too. But boyd isn't panicked enough. Despite all this, boyd convinces himself that he has things under control because he's not panicked enough. Like all this stuff, like all his life, he has made the impossible happen for other people. They called him Mr Fish and Loaves for a reason.
Speaker 2:So another question that's kind of come up and to your point about being Mr Loaves and Fishes or Fishes and Loaves is Khatri part of the entity, that bigger entity? Part of the entity, that bigger entity when he says to him that wasn't my wife and he asks him where are you? And he's like I can't tell you right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it makes me wonder if Abby was different, because Khadri is basically just an echo chamber for boy.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:But Abby was taunting him, you know, like she was taunting him in the cave. Um I unless Boyd has some kind of evil entity within himself. Maybe it's like Baltimore.
Speaker 2:Boyd has some kind of evil entity within himself. Maybe it's like Voldemort, maybe he's her crux.
Speaker 3:Maybe I don't know. I know our expected guest is late. We have no company yet. No, I know it's a big night for them too, and she just may be running late, I hope okay. So, um boyd, let's see he's not too thinking too much about the cicada trio. Cicada, the cicada well, why?
Speaker 2:what whileada? Well, while you're thinking, I just want to remind everybody this is the what Is From Cast and we're trying To get to that 600 Subscriber mark, and we Just had Kirk Manley Help us out with a season One tribute poster that you can get on Etsy On the what Is From shop. It's pretty amazing, but you know what? I don't really care about that, because we got the most important person in From right now you can possibly want to talk to. Let's welcome the one, the only, the pancake-making Mrs Lou. Oh, my God, no, there you are.
Speaker 4:Hi Alex, Hi Lizzie, Hi.
Speaker 2:How are you? You look fabulous young lady, I know she does.
Speaker 4:She's like movie star level.
Speaker 3:You know what I didn't?
Speaker 2:see my hair either, so don't you worry about it.
Speaker 4:Your hair looks good, I am here.
Speaker 2:You know what, though? A whole bunch of people are on youtube dying to ask you wonderful questions and do me a favor. I know you're not going to tell us, but my podcast partner above me is like ready to commit suicide if anything happens to you uh, yeah, no, well, not suicide.
Speaker 3:I am talking about wait a minute, just killing people.
Speaker 2:I mean, she's ready to throw down. I got my pancake ready. I got my pancake ready.
Speaker 4:You're drinking tea. You're drinking tea. I am drinking tea, can you see?
Speaker 2:I got the pancakes to go with it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think we've done it all now.
Speaker 2:So I do have an important question. I mean, you have had such a great journey. In one episode you went from fighting everyone for food to fighting the monsters, and my gosh. The question I have, which is more more you know they've put a lot of money into these monsters because they are scary as hell. This year they really are. What was it like in that whole entire scene in terms of the fx and going, you know, not head to head, but working with harold in that awesome scene? I mean, you have had some great scenes. You had one with Jade which we all cry on. I mean this must be in your top ten of all-time scenes.
Speaker 4:It is. It's actually, it's almost like okay, first of all, I want to warn your I don't know if you guys have done it already. You probably did, but please be aware this is going to guys done it already, you probably did, but please be aware this is going to be a spoiler alert. Oh yeah, we're talking to you. Yeah, so if they haven't seen episode one, they should be talking to us.
Speaker 3:We don't want to talk to them.
Speaker 2:We're kicking them out. There's no pancakes today no tea no tea for you no tea in the back room. We're talking about monsters and we're talking about um farm farm animals here.
Speaker 4:Let's go you know, it was I first of all it, it was I first of all. It was really a wonderful journey, especially season three, and it's almost like this last episode almost had all my dream came true. Really, yes, yes, true, Really, yes, yes, I mean in terms of you know being being um on the chopping board.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so let me back back up a little bit. Um, when they told me about, about this, um, about this, um, uh, what's happening? So, um, it took me a few weeks to to get over it.
Speaker 4:but they, you know, john jack jeff, they are just wonderful human being, compassionate they're, you know, I just felt so much love from them even though it was a, you know, horrible news, but, yes, love and the, the, the, the compassion that they have for tin chan, it just really, and even for me as an individual, as you know, elizabeth, as you know, um, uh, the person, it, it, you know, I, I can't um, there's no words to describe my gratitude towards them now liz, we have to say this at this point, after episode one you are still alive, you are, you are still alive.
Speaker 2:You are not in a good place, but you are still alive. That's fair to say, correct.
Speaker 4:Yes, correct.
Speaker 2:That's all I wanted to make sure, because we have not seen episode two. We have not seen it.
Speaker 4:Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know what happens. I don't want to know what happens until we stop recording. And then I'm going to watch it with my wife, because I'm going to wake her butt up, because that's what we do. We watch it together. And then I'm going to watch it with my wife, because I'm going to wake her butt up, because that's what we do. We watch it together. And her name is Liz. I have too many Liz's in my life.
Speaker 4:That's right. Yeah, no, working with all the animals were wonderful. Working with all the creatures? No, they're not really creatures, they were. You know, they look like us, right? No, they don't. Well, I mean, they're just dressed in different era, but they're very much us and they're friendly at first, sort of, you know right.
Speaker 2:Have them over for some tea and pancakes.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and they have. You know, remember the lady with the blonde hair, she has a real, you know, she got really nice smile. Oh yeah, it was just wonderful. So, anyways, in terms of this, just this episode, it um, I almost had all my dream fulfilled, for, you know, for being an actor in the show. So I say two out of three.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, I just want to give you some love here. Beth Barry says we will miss you, but you're still there. You did the character justice and we fell in love with her. And I have to say and I know Lizzie has also said this first for a character that doesn't speak well English, and as I can't even speak English, you you do such a great job and I know we had you on before and with with you and Ricky and your husband that really you only met for like a second. You do such a great job of interpreting the English language and getting out what you need to get out. It's just, quite frankly, amazing and I I just love the fact that at first you were kind of like who is this person? All you're doing is yelling at everybody, and then you, just when you and jay get together, it's just yeah, it's just cool.
Speaker 4:You know it's so funny about languages. You know, languages is really everything that's in context doesn't really matter, you know, of course. You know there's cultural differences there's, you know, different barriers, different understanding. That's why they're they're misunderstanding. Right, there's misunderstanding because the context is a little bit different or vary in different cultures.
Speaker 4:But I think, you know, with this character, with Tin Chan, I I just love the way how she feel things and she doesn't really look, see things with just the surface. She, she really looked down into into their heart, you know, and I think she actually recognized jay. You know, in the in season, I think she actually recognized Jay. You know, in season one when Jay was being, you know, a little bit difficult, a little bit disrespectful in the diner in the beginning in season one, and I think Tin Chan saw that he's very misbehaved.
Speaker 4:There must be something as the episode, as the story continues, I think she sees the heart of Jade, that, you know there's something lacking. Of course, maybe she doesn't know what it is until later when he explained about his grandmother and you know, and stuff like that. So I do think that Tin Chan, yes, she may have difficulty in English language but she's very, she understand the emotion, she understands the, the human desire. I guess you know and I think I talked about it before she found her place in Frontview yeah, and basically she is providing or she's making sure that everyone their basic needs are met Right Like tea pancakes, yeah, or she's making sure that everyone their basic needs are met right Like tea pancakes.
Speaker 2:She's a mom.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so it's really the basic things that she provides and I think she has that I can't find the word right now she has that ability to like in terms of her son, with Kenny, she, she has the ability to let him be who he wants to be. Yeah, it's almost like. You know there's, you know I, I keep telling everyone, um, tin Chan is so similar to myself, you know, with a little, a lot of background, immigrant. You know, um, um the language, um challenges. I had languages, you know English language challenges before, and you know there's that rebellious thing that I went through.
Speaker 4:You know, I may not be at the same age as Tin Chen when I came to Canada, but a lot of the struggles she actually go through, I've seen it and I've experienced it myself, but I've seen it in my parents, right, because my parents came when they were, you know, a little bit older, right. So a lot of the stuff. Okay, I think I've lost my train of thought. I think I think she, she, she does, even though she doesn't speak english very well, but she, in terms of her teaching or her raising kenny, she's able to let him do his thing, heal his thing, let him make mistakes or whatever. Yeah, well, I think so. Those are the differences, I think, in terms of Ten-Chen.
Speaker 2:And she gives him extra rations when he goes out in the woods.
Speaker 4:Yes, I mean the care and the concern. You know, I mean the worry she's still a mom and the concern. You know, I mean the worry she's still a mom. You know Kenny is still, will still always be a child to her right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so yeah so in the whole process of shooting that scene I've got to think that it was over more than one day, because I've seen how slow production or filming can go. So were you like, were you deeply in the Tian Chen character and feeling that fear? And if so, were there any moments when you were Liz Moy feeling fear with all that was going around, going on around you?
Speaker 4:I think. I think it's a bit of everything. You know, there's a bit of a lismoy there Because, in order to play a lot of the scene, you know, I use substitution. I use real scenarios, things that I injected or I'd place in that scenario in order to go through all that emotions, because there's layers of stuff in there that I hope it comes through. But there's a layer of stuff and I hope that each viewer would be able to sense different emotion depending on where they are at. I think that would be one of my joy to see, to be able to connect with viewer with different emotion, even in the same scenario, because there's so much layer. You know, we're not, we're not, we're. We're so dynamic, human beings are so dynamic. It's not just one emotions, right, because there's one emotion, that behind one emotion there may be something, something else, that that that drive that particular emotion.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah I don't know, explain myself. Oh my gosh. Yeah, like when harold is across from you and he's saying you're so strong, you're so strong, you're so strong. Um, did you, were you there for him so that, I mean, was he playing to a blank side or were you there to help him? Focus on that.
Speaker 4:I think I was there for certain uh segment, because when we shoot film like that, it takes a lot of different, different angles and different takes. So I was definitely there in the initial takes. You know, there there's times that I may not be around, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:How long did that whole thing take, was? It a day a week.
Speaker 4:No, I don't think it was. It was probably two days Okay, and then the animals were about two days and the animals you know, working with the goats and cows. It was really fun.
Speaker 3:I bet it was. I love when there's animals on set oh great my first show this year that I worked on had goats a lot, and goats are so much fun.
Speaker 4:They are, but they're so fast and they're so strong. Yeah, we actually had goats and sheep, oh wow. So at one point I was holding like two or three in one hand and they were really strong. I really had to ground myself, otherwise I'll be drinking. I'll be drinking, yeah.
Speaker 2:When you were doing the scenes outside, was it as cold as it seemed, because I know you were filming in the winter? Was it really snowing, or was that something that just happened, that they put in afterwards?
Speaker 4:No, it was really real snow, yeah, and it was so cold. You may not be able to see it, but under under my shirt and my summer sweater, they're like underwear and there's layer like you know, those thermal yeah, underwear we were wearing those yeah of underwear and there's layers. You know those thermal underwear, we were wearing those. They give you an electric vest. Yes, that's it, the electric vest. And pants too, electric underpants, oh my god yeah. Oh, they are long, johns.
Speaker 2:Long johns.
Speaker 4:Like tight, right, yeah, so they. There's this one and then when we're not, oh, I'm sorry, please.
Speaker 2:And when?
Speaker 4:we're not Sorry, sorry, no, please, when we're not filming, when we're waiting for the camera and stuff like that. When we're outside we have jackets on. We need jackets on right and then when we're shooting, then we would take those off. Yeah.
Speaker 2:There's this one picture of David Alpin with the cow or whatever. It's a studio picture. It is gorgeous. It's all blue with the cow and it just looks as beautifully terrifying as this show is. And when that milkman comes up and slashes it, you're like. Now I have a question when was the first time you actually saw the whole episode? Was it tonight or the preview, I mean, or was it before this?
Speaker 4:I mean, or was it before this? Um, I just saw the first episode, uh, just today's Sunday, right, so just three or four days ago, wow, really, yeah. So, so, yeah, I'm, I'm, you know, I was just, I was just, you know, I was just really. Oh, what's the word? Like I knew I did the show, like you know, when I was watching it, yeah, I had to pinch myself and say, okay, that's you. You know, as I was watching, I'm so into the stories of different characters. You forget, I forget, that's actually me. And then into the like, a little bit later it's like, maybe three-quarter way, it's like, hey, liz, that's you. Oh, and then you realize, okay, that's you. But then you go back into the story. Right, you go back into Frumville, yeah.
Speaker 3:I can't imagine what that feeling is like to be pulled out. And then you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute, let's get back into the story. But it just. It was utterly terrifying when Boyd, you know, he closes the door, he locks the door, he puts the talisman on the lock and he turns around and there's you know four of the monsters and I, I know everyone was like, but wait a minute, the talisman didn't work and I'm like well, it's keeping the other ones out if you're already in there it doesn't work yeah, yeah it doesn't work, but that's right yeah now we're.
Speaker 3:I mean, there's such a scary figure in the show and you know, every time we talk to someone on the show they, you know, we ask about the monsters and generally it's like we don't really get that close to them. So I'm thinking that helps when it's trying to build up the terror that you're feeling. But is it scary, like because like they were starting to turn in the barn so you're seeing some of that makeup up close, but is it scary? Um?
Speaker 4:I think, and putting it into context yes, I was scared, right, because when you're faced with danger and these are real, like you know, these can be life-threatening dangers and so when you're placed in that situation, yes, there's real fear, yeah, definitely that situation, yes, there's. There's real fear. Yeah, there's definitely and there's real. It's not just fear, but it's almost like you know when, when you, when you feeling you're safe, you know when you're right in the barn, you close the door and and put the talisman on, you think you're safe, yeah, so you think you're safe, then you kind of release that burden or that tension and then when you pull back and realize, oh, you're not safe, I think that drastic drop it's more impactful in terms of in in your emotion. Yeah, what?
Speaker 2:so what did you think of the newer monster that we call him the professor?
Speaker 3:he's like this, uh oh I, I was calling him the bank president in my notes.
Speaker 2:Oh, the bank president, but he does look like a professor too yeah. He seems like he's like a head or something. It looks like it's him the cowboy, and then everybody else, now that Smiley's gone, the mechanic.
Speaker 3:Wait a minute, it was the cowboy, the mechanic, the bank professor. Let's call him the bank professor. There's a nurse, right, professor?
Speaker 2:there's a nurse right yeah, it sounds like a bad joke. They all came into a bar and yeah, but I'm just saying, like you know, they're starting to have some of the old favorites. You know now that smiley's gone, but it was neat that you know. The monsters aren't just killing you guys right away, they're playing with food they played with yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:But you know what another thing is? I think what I was. I was scared of the cowboy. Yes, not so much of, not so much of his face, but it's his voice, yes, tone of voice. It's like, once he speaks, it's like, oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, kenny said the one thing that is like resonated through this whole entire show, and it was in the first or second episode to Boyd, and it's about chess pieces and it's so, it's so important because the cowboy is just so, they're all so da, da, da, da da yeah, like checkmate yep, and, and there's not that many pieces on the board yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 4:And also I think the way how they carry themselves.
Speaker 4:You know they never run, they never rush, you know they just smile and they'll get there, yeah, and then I think those because you don't really know what they were thinking or what, like they're just holding everything back. And that's when our my imagination going okay, what is he going to do? Why? Why do you see, you know, why is he being so, so calm? And and here I am, and because of its calmness it's actually makes me a little bit more. It's like okay, what's going to happen?
Speaker 3:I it's, maybe, maybe it's all imagination working, yeah, I mean they're getting ready to do this heinous stuff and they're just like you know. They're like cats, you know seeing a mouse or something, and they play with it a little bit you know, and it's kind of cruel.
Speaker 3:But I was thinking um in my rewatch getting ready for tonight. Um boyd goes to talk to ethan and it's about being upset about the animals having to be killed and it made me think of you. Ethan's answer made me think of you because he says kill Ama first so that she doesn't have to watch all her friends die. And I was like that's Mrs Lou, so she doesn't cause. I mean, you're such the caretaker you know.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm, and she loves everybody, she loves everybody, she does yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so Liz, I got. I just want to mention folks. We're having pancakes with Liz Moy, aka Mrs Lou, on the what Is From podcast. But we asked this of Harold and I'd love to get your answer, due to the fact that we saw the first episode. It seems like the first two seasons, or the first season, the town and the colony house were apart, and now that everybody's kind of intermingled and there's more love, do you think love is the Achilles heel of Fromm?
Speaker 4:Yes, I think so the way you put it, because definitely it's about community, it's about family, right, and now, yeah, town, they have their separate way of doing things and then colony house has different way of doing things, but you know where now they have to sort of figure out what to do with limited resources that they have and they have to somehow get together and and work things out Right, Because you know, I think last season you have Donna and the Matthews family in the Luz house. You know Donna and the Matthews family in the Lou's house. You know pickling vegetables and stuff and getting everything into the. You know preserve all the. You know the food that they have, Right.
Speaker 4:So so I think you know it's about love, it's about community, it's about, yeah, it's, you know, I mean in any, in any situation. You know, even doing the film, even even filming this series, it takes a village, yeah, To to, to, to have this result for for you guys, for everyone, right, for all of us to see. Because it's not just about you know, because it's not just about you know the work is not just about just the creator or just the director or just the actors, because you know, without each other, without the crew, without the characters, without prosthetic. You know, there's special effects, there's so many wardrobes and makeup and everything working to to produce the result of this, the, the series. I think it's amazing.
Speaker 4:So I think it it. It translated to to also, in order for them to survive, they have to pull their resources together and because they're, you know, they know that they're human beings. They're humans, but whatever is out there at night, they don't know what they are, right, so they have to rely on each other. So, yeah, definitely, I think. Yeah, you're, I think you're right. It's really about love.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah it, it seems to be like that, though in the larger sense you know that are not as prominent. You know we see that activity going on, except for the guy that shot Boyd. He just didn't fit in.
Speaker 2:You know something? He didn't have enough tea or pancakes, because we don't like him very much.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but he also lost his wife, right, right. His wife, you know, died in that cicada thingy and, you know, in a horrible death and I think that really, you know, maybe put him to the edge, yeah.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so it is about different people, different story of how we're surviving, how we can strive in situation that is pressing. What do you do?
Speaker 2:Right. Nobody knows what they would do if they were in that situation. I do have another question, because Lizzie has her board and we need to be able to figure out the board. How do you know how long the lose have been from?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you know how long I'm just asking? Do you know I'll make it big, so you guys can.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 4:I can't really. I'm going to make it big.
Speaker 2:I'm going to make it big.
Speaker 3:You made me big, all right. So there's Victor, then Dara, atri, boyd, fatima. The loos are somewhere in here between the one year and the six months, because Fatima's been there for a year, christy has been there for six months and the loos, I think the loos went after Donna.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 4:Right, where is?
Speaker 3:Donna. Donna is way down here at three years, three years, six months and 17 days, and then Katri Yep, and then where's?
Speaker 4:Sarah, where's Sarah?
Speaker 3:Sarah is way up here at four to five months.
Speaker 2:Oh wait, I think we do have an answer. Susie from Corman said under a year based on the missing poster.
Speaker 3:Oh, there was a missing poster. Oh, so many.
Speaker 2:That's why they have a podcast.
Speaker 3:I guess I kind of have it in the right place. It's somewhere in here, so I guess we'll have to it in the right place. It's somewhere in here, so I guess we'll have to look for that missing poster to find out. So this is just what I've gleaned from watching the show. And so then the bus people showed up, so I can move the Matthews family and Jade down.
Speaker 4:Where's the bus right now? Is that the top? So yeah, the Matthew is right under them.
Speaker 3:Yeah that's right. And then poor Victor.
Speaker 2:We don't know when he came. He just came in the 70s sometime yeah 1978.
Speaker 3:He's been there for a long time, doesn't he look?
Speaker 4:like the long time. Doesn't he look like, you know, the young Victor? Doesn't he look like Scott 10?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like 10.
Speaker 4:Right, yeah, yeah. So you know, I think, yeah, 10, and he's been there for I don't know at least 30.
Speaker 3:40-something years.
Speaker 4:Because he's 50.
Speaker 3:He and he's been there for I don't know at least 30.
Speaker 4:40-something years?
Speaker 3:I don't know, because he's 50. He says he's 50.
Speaker 4:So if it's 10, then it's 40 years.
Speaker 2:then yeah I mean, I can't even imagine. That. The fact that he's even speaking, I'm not even trying to be funny. It's like who the heck is he going?
Speaker 3:to talk to the dog.
Speaker 2:I'm talking to myself. I talk to myself anyway. Yeah, but there's been a lot of people, other people that came in, came through that we don't even know about that.
Speaker 3:We don't even know about, yeah, because there's, you know, a lot of cars that he, he, he buried or not, yeah, we put over in that field yeah yeah, yeah's why you say that, because I was thinking about that today, because at one point I was trying to date all the cars that were on the street when, when victor was a boy and there was the massacre, and so most of the cars were like late 60s, early 70s, but um, I finally, you know, the light went off. It's 1978, when victor is there, because that's what's? Um, scratched on the staircase and victor has the lunchbox. You know, the disco lunchbox.
Speaker 4:Oh is that what it says 1978 1978 on the staircase.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that Tabitha is going up. And the thing about disco is, like you know, in America, like I remember, when disco was big I was in middle school, you know, and you know it wasn't the coolest thing. And you know it wasn't the coolest thing yeah, I'm older than Victor, but it wasn't the coolest thing. You know the music like to be like, oh, I'm into disco Really. It wasn't, it wasn't cool. No, it really wasn't, at least where I was, you know, in Boston.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know, when I think of that school, I just think of John Tufold, oh my God yes.
Speaker 2:That's all you got to think about.
Speaker 3:I mean, it just doesn't get any better than that I was too young to see that movie, but you know. But like you know as it, I think it was maybe more the rock enthusiasts that were just like disco sucks, but I liked it. Of course I was a loser, but I liked it listen.
Speaker 2:It helps me with my job. I teach cpr. They're always yes, no, what do I know? What so, exactly, exactly so. So, liz, I know you're a fan of the show and I know you're talking about the one for you, liz. There's only one, liz. She's Lizzie, you're Liz.
Speaker 4:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's great. So you know, I know you haven't seen everything, just because you haven't seen it all put together, what were were? Were you surprised, and not with specifics, but were you surprised on the direction that the, the, not this episode, but just the season went? It was?
Speaker 3:were you just were there something going?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And it's almost like every time I get the script it's like what, what, what's going on, and then you don't know anything else. Right, like yeah, because if we ask, john is like we can ask, but Ask it, yeah, we can ask. But yeah, we can ask, you know, we can always ask, but it's like okay, when we ask okay, sure, yeah, oh, okay, well, that's that's our answer. Okay, okay, you want to know what's going on? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Sure, that's why Lizzie talks to Harold when we do our junkets. She always asks him, like who threw the rope? And he's like right, Like he's going to tell her. I mean like, come on, I ask him possible questions, Then he asks her to jump it Junket. Is it really Liz Moy that you're talking to, or is it?
Speaker 3:somebody else. I did not say that, you know, I didn't say that.
Speaker 2:Who the heck is he going to say? Is it somebody else Like, come on.
Speaker 3:I was not. I did not ask that. I said are you strong enough, and is the person across from you strong enough? I wasn't. I knew it was you. No, I don't know. Oh, you knew it was.
Speaker 2:It was it was well, it was supposed to be you. Oh, we are wait, actually we.
Speaker 3:We knew it was you because we watched the first episode the day before we interviewed harold oh, I see, be ready. And so we knew it was you. But I wasn't trying to get that out of him, because I wasn't. I wanted to know if he thought that the person across from him was strong enough that that they, you know? Are they so strong, you know, and I'm just thinking? Meanwhile she's screaming her head off. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Taking pieces of her head off.
Speaker 4:No, screaming doesn't mean you're not strong yeah.
Speaker 3:It must have hurt. Yeah, she's still alive.
Speaker 2:So who in the cast have you not worked with that you really would love to because you know their character, or just in general, is there anybody in the cast? Because I know you're in the town so you only have a couple of people that you can really have scenes with. But is there anybody in the colony house that you really would love to either yell at or have fun with on, you know, in the scene?
Speaker 4:well, I definitely. Um, I didn't have too. I didn't have any too. I didn't. What am I speaking? I don't know what I'm speaking anymore. Shannon's in me right now. Oh no, she's possessed, I'm possessed. Oh no, she's possessed, I'm possessed, I don't think I had a lot of interaction with Fat Fatima and oh, ellis, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I think the one time they were in the diner you weren't in that scene.
Speaker 4:Which one are you talking about?
Speaker 3:I think it was season one and they talk about getting married.
Speaker 4:Oh was that in the diner. Yeah, yeah, oh yes. Yes, they were sitting down Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, yeah. So, but you know I, you know anybody's wish is really having a lot of interaction with a lot of the characters yeah the story is.
Speaker 4:I just you know, that's why I love I think john is such such um, it's so intelligent in terms of how he put in place people together and the story, how they interact. And then slowly it spilled to other area. And I think you know I was watching episode one with concentration of how one story leads to the other, how the transition is, and I realized that you know the transition of the different story from characters to characters. It's just so well done and it's just so intriguing at times because you want it to know what's happening, but then it moves on right to another characters and then it comes back. So I think that that transitioning it just really it pulls. That's why I think you know, when I was watching episode one I totally forgotten that I was actually, I'm actually in the show.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I know it's funny, right, you're really in the show and your name's on the thing, you know. You said this. We always ask this of all the, the cast what were your three? What are your three words that kind of define the season for you, this, this season, like in terms of you know, if you're, if you're, if nobody knows about the show, what would be the three words that kind of encapsulate it for you?
Speaker 4:Evilish, evilish, evilish, evil, evil-ish, evil, evil-ish.
Speaker 3:Okay, I got it, right now I can't speak right, that's okay.
Speaker 4:That's, I think you've been on a whirlwind this last week I've been, I've been, yeah, it's been, it's been, uh, um, lots of things, yeah, and then I also just came back from a short little trip, so yeah, basically I just jumped off the ferry and then and then into here. But you know, it's fine, yeah, no.
Speaker 2:Evilish. What else do you got besides evilish?
Speaker 4:Scary, scary, yeah, I'll say lost, lost, a lot of lost, wow, wow, not, they get lost, but a lot of loss. Oh, it's both lost and get lost. Yeah, yeah, not just now, but it's, it's being lost.
Speaker 3:I finding the way, I'm anxious to find out. If, um, you know, like, like Father Cautry, you end up coming back to Boyd, I'm anxious to find that out.
Speaker 2:He's not dead. As far as I know, he's not dead.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm just thinking they really forgot about him.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know we saw the trailer, so it doesn't look good for for mrs lou I was like I think you were one of.
Speaker 3:It was either you or tabitha were my top choices like I was just like looking at the sneaker, the one sneaker that's left, and then I was like I think that's either mrs lou or tabitha. Like they found tabitha. But you know, even though Tabitha is someplace else Now, I know the body and Tabitha are in the same place.
Speaker 2:So that's a good thing, because you want your body and the person to be in the same place.
Speaker 4:You know what? Even what is death. Thaddeus is back, yeah. Does that mean he's dead?
Speaker 3:Well, he's in, like he seems to be playing Boyd's conscience, and you know, one thing I really have liked about this show is that they kill somebody off and then you see them again. So they're still a part of the show and I think that makes it even scarier. So I'm hoping that, because Boyd is forced to watch what happens to you, that it haunts him and that we see you that way well, there's a couple.
Speaker 2:People think that father cotri is part of the entity, but we're hoping that he isn't.
Speaker 4:We're hoping that he oh, oh, oh, really, oh okay.
Speaker 2:So there's this force well, well, after last season, we have, we have our, we have you guys, we've got the monsters, and they said that there's something above the monsters in terms of maybe the voice well, if somebody you know it could be. It could be mrs loose, it could be, it could be Mrs Loose Tea, it could be the pancakes. Who knows what it is?
Speaker 3:I know. I mean, the thing is like I know we tease about the tea and the pancakes, but why couldn't there be something in the food that would kind of keep them in a certain frame of mind? Like what if they're all just taking LSD and they're on the same trip?
Speaker 4:But then how do you explain the?
Speaker 2:voice on the phone.
Speaker 4:We can't explain it.
Speaker 3:That's what we've been trying to do for a whole season trying to explain the voice.
Speaker 1:If.
Speaker 4:I could explain it. I would use it.
Speaker 2:Thanks for helping us out there, Liz.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know, you know what you know. I don't try to find out. I don't try to find out, I don't try to analyze, analyze, analyze the what's happening. But I, I so enjoy reading the comments and, um, you know, to tell you the truth, I don't read everything, but the stuff that I read I just find, oh, wow, yeah, amazing. Do you notice that? Oh, you know, and then I would have to re-watch a little bit.
Speaker 4:Now, you know, now that you're talking about 1978, I thought, oh, I have to re-watch that. Yeah, yeah, so it's, it's, um, yeah, so I'm in a different path. I'm on, I'm on the ride, I'm on the journey. I'm on the ride, I'm on the journey.
Speaker 2:You're on the ride, you are.
Speaker 4:And you guys and the viewers and everyone that put the comments on it's just making this ride so interesting.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 4:I just kept thinking, oh, how come I didn't notice that? And then I realized my screen, especially my computer, is very dark. I'm not able to see a lot of the stuff. I have to make sure that I. Sometimes, even if I turn it brighter, to the brightest level, I'm still. I don't know, maybe it's my screen, I think. I think it looks the best on may. I don't know, maybe it's my screen.
Speaker 3:I think, well, I think it looks the best on my iPad. To be honest, like I noticed so much more on the iPad than the television.
Speaker 2:I put closed captions on just so I don't miss stuff.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I do that too.
Speaker 2:Cause there's sometimes there's like little whispers and stuff and I like the whole Cooey thing, Like I didn't know how to say that, so I made sure that I learned how to do that and whatever else. But I know you have to go, Cause I know you probably have a bunch of other parties to deal with and a whole bunch of pancakes to make and I I we personally want to thank you for being such a great supporter of us. You're always sharing our stuff and you know you are one of it Both Liz's, both you and Liz Saunders for our first two interviews and you were nice enough to come on and you always have an open invitation to come back anytime.
Speaker 4:I know. No, the gratitude is from me. I thank you for your support and for your love. I was telling my friends today that I don't know who I was trying to describe to them, who I was interviewing with, and I told them Lizzy and Alex, one of the first one that supported our show and that gave us a lot of love, gave us a lot of encouragement and support. So thank you and I really enjoy you guys and thank you so much for doing this.
Speaker 3:No, I honestly like you guys all of you have been so generous and just wonderful, wonderful, real like, just so generous, and Alex and I appreciate that so much that this is just, it's more than just an interview. I feel like we're visiting with one of our friends now.
Speaker 4:Oh, thank you. I'm talking to my friends right now, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's the wonderful thing and that's why you know when they're always like cause we've said this, and it's same thing with the walking dead. It's like we know people have to go or else it won't be Everybody can't live. But, like when somebody does leave the show, it's like it's necessary, but it's like, oh no, they're gone. Like when Reed left, it was first off, he never left. I mean, they screwed that up. And same thing with Father Khatri.
Speaker 3:I mean Reed was back, I mean when Khatri died. That was such a surprise. But Reed has come back to talk to Jade.
Speaker 4:That's right. Yeah, that was in the episode. No, that was last season, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, so gone. So not so gone after all.
Speaker 2:But yeah that's what's great so gone after all. But yeah, that's what's great. But anyway, folks, um, I know you probably have a thousand more questions for liz and she probably can't even answer half of them because she's under the uh she's under the influence of pancakes and tea from mrs lou.
Speaker 4:Um, um a lot of mushrooms, lots of mushrooms, you know something that's what makes me love you even more right now.
Speaker 2:But before we go, if you want to, folks.
Speaker 3:Wait a minute, Alex. I just want to ask this last question.
Speaker 2:Oh, please, please.
Speaker 3:It's not necessarily. It's not about Mrs Liu, but it's a nagging question that I had during the whole outdoor scene. When, um, when, uh, julie and ethan come out the back door of mrs lou's house yeah, that's the extent of you being involved Sarah is standing there. I want to know who, like what everyone thinks, why the heck is Sarah outside at night? And she wasn't helping with the animals? What was she doing right there?
Speaker 2:Good question. You know what? She just took a john on us and she just did yeah what she just did it she just did a boy on us what do you mean? She's not answering the question I said no, no no, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Who knows, I'm not. I I'm not asking it of liz moy. Yeah, I'm not asking it of Liz Moy. I'm just asking everyone that's in the chat room in general if you're in your car tomorrow morning when you're listening to this, what the heck was Sarah doing skulking around outside the Lou house at night if she wasn't helping with the animals? What was she doing? That was creepy AF. It really was.
Speaker 4:There is a creepy person you know what you know, I actually I love seeing her there and she's there at the right moment but like, did a voice tell her to go stand outside?
Speaker 3:or something like why didn't the monsters bother her if she's outside?
Speaker 2:grandma was right there, she could have had a saracicle quiet place no, liz, this is what I have to deal with all the time. Anytime you do anything like any of the actors you move your phone, you move a cup of coffee it means something. It does To Lizzie. It does If you're wearing a yellow sweater.
Speaker 1:That means something, Regardless of the fact that that's the one that you picked.
Speaker 4:I'm wearing green. It means something. It's forest, it it's yes, that's why I wore so green you're in a hot.
Speaker 2:You're in a freaking faraway tree for all I know. Yeah, but um she's.
Speaker 3:She's coming in through a faraway tree exactly um that's how she's joining us tonight.
Speaker 2:Liz, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 4:Thank you so much, thank you very much.
Speaker 2:Give our best to all the cast that you see. Are you in California?
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 2:I'm in Vancouver. She's home, she's home. Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:All the times that we've talked to her, you don't recognize her home.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 4:I'm just asking you to answering the phone, so to speak, he talks to a lot of people.
Speaker 2:I don't. The problem is I can't get all the damn Liz's straight Between you, liz, my wife, all these other Liz's. It's like enough with the Liz's. I'm Tiz.
Speaker 4:I'm Tiz, and then Donna is Diz.
Speaker 2:We had Liz and then we had Cliff. Oh whoa, cliff literally popped out of the couch. I think you guys should have them together we did.
Speaker 4:It was wonderful. Oh, you did.
Speaker 2:If you go on to the other video behind this one, it starts out as Liz and then it turns into liz and cliff and I see, they really, they really need to like. You know, they're just, they're just two love birds celebrating their 30th anniversary. That's all yes, just stick around one second. Um, folks, we have our what is from Season One tribute poster and, if I'm not mistaken, there's somebody making pancakes on the bottom there.
Speaker 4:Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2:We are out of here. Bye, wait one more guys. One more, I'm the dumbest person in the world. Let me get the bell ringer. Get you home, let's go, come on. Get in your house, let's go, come on.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
