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65 FROM Season 3 Episode 9 "Revelations: Chapter One"
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Can character reincarnation and mysterious ruins influence the fate of your favorite TV family? Join us as Lizzie and I peel back the layers of season three, episode nine, diving into a whirlwind of twists and unanswered questions. We tackle the unpredictable Randall's interactions with Julie and the Matthews family, pondering his true motives amidst growing tension. Our exploration doesn't stop there; we unravel the mysterious forces linked to the ruins and speculate about the thrilling season finale that's just around the corner.
At Colony House, chaos reigns with Acosta's fiery personality clashing against the backdrop of Fatima's pronunciation woes and Donna's secretive nature. Listener feedback fuels our discussion as we compare Acosta's rookie status with the journey of other newcomers, like Tabitha and Julie. We highlight the haunting misinterpretation of Sarah's voices, questioning their true intent and their role in the fragile web of trust and communication. As the psychological strain intensifies, we're left grappling with the eerie manipulation of a character's Parkinson's condition and the sinister atmosphere created by menacing figures lurking in the shadows.
Victor's haunting history takes center stage, unraveling a complex tapestry of childhood fears and supernatural undercurrents. We compare Victor's survival instincts to that of Tarzan's jungle adaptation, dissecting society's tendency to misunderstand those with unconventional coping mechanisms. From town meetings to search party drama, we spotlight the community's urgent quest to find the missing Fatima, emphasizing the critical role of collaboration. With an eye on the grand finale, we ponder character identities and the potential reincarnations shaping their destinies. And as we sign off, we're thrilled to share our latest merchandise, offering a tangible piece of our journey together.
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Speaker 2:Lizzie, what are you doing?
Speaker 3:I'm putting magnets on the fridge. What do you think I'm doing?
Speaker 2:All right, welcome to the show. My name is Alex. We're just too cute, is Alex? We're just too cute Alex Sorry. Oh yeah, I was putting your magnets on the floor, I mean on the refrigerator, oh, the fridge.
Speaker 3:I just think we're too cute.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we are. We're something. I don't know what we are, but welcome to the show. Today we are talking, we've got two more episodes and now we have one Season three, episode nine, revelations, chapter one, and Sunday. Wait, before we do that, I just want to tell anybody that's listening if you love what we're doing, please hit that subscribe button. We are almost to 800 subscribers and our goal is to get to a thousand by next podcast, um, and we're very close to our 3000 viewer hours. So, if you want to hit that subscribe button, which is, I think, down that way, I don't know whichever way it was and then we're going to talk a little bit more about the, the little commercial that we did, cause we got a couple of different merch items that were we're doing as well. So, lizzie, what was your first thoughts of this episode?
Speaker 3:um, I was like wow it. It just was all these little puzzle pieces and there's they were, starting to, you know, find their little places to go in. Um, I'm not sure what's up with Tabitha. So I thought, but I loved, I don't know, the Miranda thing was heartbreaking. Anyway, what did you think?
Speaker 2:I mean, I thought it wasn't the finale. No, which is kind of upsetting.
Speaker 2:I did like the smiley callback. You know I liked there's a callback. You know, yeah, I liked there was a bunch of stuff I liked there was just little moments that were there. But I think there's a lot of creepy stuff still going on and I think there's still a lot of unanswered questions, which you know. When we I did an Instagram live just to kind of promote tonight, and people like, oh, it was really boring, I'm like, yeah, of course it's going to be boring. It's the, it's the, it's the one. Right before the finale, like they're not going to answer everything today, um, so I mean like, give me a break, uh I don't get that.
Speaker 3:I don't understand how anyone could say that it was boring. Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 2:You know it just comes down to. People just don't get that. The problem is this show is filmed like one, I think. I mean I know they do it episode by episode. But I think that there's a lot to be said for seeing the whole season all at once and right, and I think that when you do that, you're gonna, you're gonna, you can understand a lot more, like when we binge season one, season two or now season three. You're in that world, so you know everything that's going on. I think you know it's hard when you have all these little callbacks to different things and you just don't remember. So, um, it does, and every episode can't answer mysteries, you know, I mean.
Speaker 3:So well, yeah, because you need. You need some of the pieces parts to create them yeah, and I don't want to say filler in the, you know, not in a bad way, but you need that backstory, you need a lot of different stuff.
Speaker 2:That goes on and I'm hoping you know because we're on right now. We are on our YouTube, we're on Podcasts to Get YouTube and we're on, I think we're on our Twitter account as well. I'm trying to attach it to our Twitter. So we're all over the place today. So hopefully we get a bunch of people here. And where do you want to start today, Liz?
Speaker 3:All right, so we're going to start with the Matthews family. We'll start our little day off there.
Speaker 3:And so we start in the clinic and Christy is looking over Julie and at that point they decide that they're going to stay the night. And so during that time Jim finds out that Julie was in the woods with Randall. So I mean, it sounds like he reacted like my mom would have reacted and you know it felt like that. But it's more so that Randall is kind of like, you know, a hothead and we don't know that we could trust him. I mean, he did tie Donna to a tree, yeah, but that was like a week ago, I know, and that's not that long ago, but he was actually doing something nice and trying to teach her how to drive. So let's see, jim decides he's got to go down and talk to Randall. And so he goes down and Randall is looking at his face Like I think I'd be spending a lot of time either absolutely not looking or just wondering what was going to happen to my face. You know, what was I? What would I be looking like? So I don't know, I don't know that they're even changing the bandages, because I could have sworn that Randall's bandage was bloody over by his mouth.
Speaker 3:The last episode. So he tells Jim that Julie was drawn to the ruins. And you know that makes sense, because she drags ethan back with her, like against her better judgment. She takes ethan back with her and what I was wondering is if he could to it at another time or if it is like totally no way for him right? Does the energy change so that you know different people are attracted at different times? So you know, jim's getting ready to go back upstairs and randall's, like you know, teach, teach her to drive. But then he says, since none of them are getting, or none of us are getting out of here alive, Right, he's real, he's real optimist.
Speaker 2:but I will say this though I mean, you know Randall, randall has been, and I beat him up too. I mean he came off really bad in the beginning in season two and you know they have done whatever they can to pick on Randall for some reason, and you know they threw Boyd under the bus because of Randall. They have not utilized him in any way, shape or form, and rightfully so, not rightfully so. It's just that right now he, he's a very valuable asset that they don't really understand.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah because he's got a connection. They are like tormenting this guy and we don't know why they're picking on him so much. Yes, they're picking on julie. They really haven't. They really haven't messed with Marilee at all, mariel. Mariel, yeah, at all.
Speaker 3:It's weird that she doesn't say anything about it, like she won't. You know. She's just like it's not happening to me and says nothing.
Speaker 2:Maybe something will happen next episode. And I just want to say, before we go any further, we have over 74, 75 now listeners and watchers and I just want to say thank you so much for for spending the time. I know this is a big episode. A lot has been answer. We're starting to get some more answers now and we're going up to 77. Hopefully we get to 100. Um, and and you know, this just shows how great this show is, not us, us, I'm talking about From, and you know the work that they've done this season has. It's been and I'm not, you know, in terms of first thoughts about this season. This season's been awful in terms of in terms of it's a downer, it's a great season, but I'm saying it is.
Speaker 2:It has been absolutely heartbreaking from the minute.
Speaker 3:I'm sitting here questioning whether I even liked season two now because this season's been so great.
Speaker 2:No, but my point being is it has been a downer from day one. We lost more than one character yeah, one major major character and a couple of minor characters and some people. But the thing is, you know, in all of that, they have done such a great job of really promoting this. But you know the Matthews family to going back to what you said, you know they're trying to work stuff out, they're trying to be more of a family and Jim finally admits that he's freaking crazy. He's been an awful father, he's been an awful husband and all he's doing is causing more problems with his craziness.
Speaker 2:And for a guy that is smart as he is, he is off the reservation. Now you can say he's off his game because of the whole radio thing. But there's more to it than this. I mean he went after Jade, he's gone after Randall, he's gone after just about he went after Donna at one point last season. I mean, you know, like, come on, people, people like, and I love, and I love, I'm what I should say. I want to love the character, but because we both love ian, but he is just, I'm like if he died it would be like, see ya, I I just have no use for it right now I just feel like he has taken too long to to get in step.
Speaker 3:You know, when he goes to Tabitha and says, look, I'm going to support you. You're definitely figuring this place out, I'm going to, you know. I'm going to be there for you.
Speaker 2:Like when he finally says, hey, I've been slacking on my job, my husband job, and I'm going to start supporting you. It's like almost almost a little too late. It's almost a little too late. But but you know what, I and I and I'm saying this I think they missed an opportunity with him. Maybe there's a reason why they did it, but I think that he could have been more valuable this season, and I mean they, he had a lot of great like season one was really good and season two was just kind of eh, but anyway he wasn't really in it.
Speaker 3:It felt like he wasn't really in it much in season two. Right, that's what I mean, yeah, like he's been in a lot of this episode. I mean a lot of this season. We've seen a lot of him. Right. He's been pretty pissed off most of it, but yeah, well, so then they go to.
Speaker 2:you want to go to the diner next, or you want to still stay?
Speaker 3:at the clinic. I'm done with the clinic. The only other thing to mention is that Tabitha says that Julie is not telling them something. So I'm ready to go to Donna. So I'm ready to go to Donna and it's just her basically up at Colony House and then, when she's out, doing search party with Acosta, which I thought was an interesting pairing considering the rumor I I I'm just saying I'm not feeding I, I think the rumor.
Speaker 2:I think this is a great scene because if anybody has watched this show, they pulled on every single heartstring during that, during that whole when she was in colony house.
Speaker 3:Okay, oh, my goodness, I mean just walking around because, like remember, fatima's anniversary party was one of the early episodes exactly, and it was episode eight like what's that?
Speaker 2:was episode eight, because that was the big. That's when we met smiley oh wait, a jasmine and jazz. That's when jasmine came out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um I thought that, um, I, I just I wanted to be at that party. If there was just something about it, I just wanted to be there at that party, you know, in that episode.
Speaker 2:But you know. But that's why I put and we're up to 90 now, oh my god, um, yay, that's why I put up her face, because on the on the cover this week, because I know a lot's going on. But she and boy had been the rocks of this place and to see her get dismantled from. And then they, and then they showed her at Colony House talking about the anniversary. Then they showed her again with her sister, the picture of her sister, and then Boyd comes in. I mean there's just a whole bunch of stuff which I know you're going to go over. I don't want to, you know.
Speaker 3:No, that's all right. Yeah, going to go over, I don't want to, you know. No, that's all right. Um, uh, yeah, like, I mean she's just seeing her world. Like, remember, right after the jasmine attack, she was really upset because she felt that colony house was destroyed, everything that she had built was destroyed was destroyed, everything that she had built was destroyed and she just built, yeah, that she built, yeah, and in this episode you're seeing, this is like an even lower point of that, because it seemed like she bounced back for a bit, but in this episode she just seems so low, like you know, just being like staring endlessly at the picture of herself with her sister and walking around the house and and seeing the scenes, you know right now she doesn't want to be bothered by anyone until Boyd comes knocking and she tells him that she's not going to spill the beans about Fatima having killed Tilly, which I think is a smart idea.
Speaker 3:So at that point they decide that they're going to go set up, make an announcement and set up a search party. But I want to jump from there over to her and Acosta, donna and Acosta being out looking for Fatima, or Fatima, I want to say it right. So, at any rate, what's that?
Speaker 2:Fatima, fatima. So, at any rate, what's that?
Speaker 3:Fatima, fatima, I'm doing it right, it's not.
Speaker 2:It's fine, that's the way they say it on the show.
Speaker 3:All right, I don't want to be like all cicada cicada.
Speaker 2:You know what the problem is. I've heard it heard. I've heard it Fatima or Fatima, and everybody said it, like Donna says it's Fatima, ella says Fatima, and so does Boyd. So no matter what we do, we're wrong. But again we're at 99. Let's see if we can get one more. We've got to take a picture of that baby, yeah.
Speaker 3:So we've got. Oh, wait a minute, elgin is so creepy. I wish we could send Nathan a. Oh, don't worry.
Speaker 2:I've been sending him stuff all week about lotion in the basket.
Speaker 3:Okay. So at any rate Acosta is, so she's not chilling in any way, shape or form. It's been a couple of days that she's been there. She has not calmed down and it just makes me think that she is a very in your face kind of like very strong personality that just isn't getting it. She's not even breaking at all. She questions Boyd's information from Sarah about Fatima. Right.
Speaker 3:Right. So Donna tells her that Sarah is connected to this place and, like as far as we know, acosta has not had the little sit-down chat about what this place is. Right, right, she's just getting pieces from everybody, and we know that when Donna is saying that Sarah is connected to this place, it's just something a little bit more.
Speaker 2:Donna tells no, I'm saying yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay. Donna tells Acosta that she's wrong, that Sarah didn't kill Sarah and Fatima. Tilly and Fatima. It's just my notes, donna tells Acosta that she doesn't understand this place, which is what we know. She hasn't really tried to understand this place, despite everyone saying this place isn't like home, you know. But you know what, donna?
Speaker 2:To that point. You know, first off, and one thing I'm mad at both of them about, just in general we've got Acosta, who knows she's not in the right place, like everything's messed up, and then you've got Donna, who knows everything's messed up, and then you've got Donna, who knows everything's messed up, and between the two of them they've not given Acosta an inch Right and they also haven't given her any answers. So of course she's going to be a little, you know, a little defensive and you know so. It just it makes sense. But I mean for her to explain. When Donna explains about Sarah, there's things. I don't have time to give you all these things about this place and we'll talk later. You know that means that she's dead. I mean I'm not saying she is, I have no idea, but you know it's like it's like the famous last words, kind of thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But before you go on, what are the, what are the listeners out there? What do you guys think the 108 of you, the 109 of you think about that conversation? Yeah, she just got out of the Academy, you're absolutely right. And she they make no bones about that, she is a rookie, she. And if you go back to our interview with her, she says I'm a rookie cop, she's been there, but that doesn't mean that she's a dumb person.
Speaker 3:I enjoyed that interview a lot and I'm almost glad that I had to miss it. You weren't going on that interview. I wasn't, I just wasn't ever.
Speaker 2:Oh was, oh, my god would have given me the wrong link oh my god, she was, she was, she was amazing and she's awesome.
Speaker 3:I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed it a lot. Um, I was listening to it at work and um, I really liked um her talking about her character and you know the whole thing, because who knows how much time she had to prep what.
Speaker 2:I wanted to defend her a little bit because I think people just don't understand her. Take, they just think from, and they don't understand how an officer works, you know, and that's the problem. I mean, you know, I think that there's a lot, like she said it, with donna I am a resource and you guys aren't using me, and the reason they're not using her because she's been there for two seconds and she's not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's not, she doesn't know well, she doesn't trust me enough to know to be told everything yet. And that's kind of silly, I mean, I think if they had told her what had happened, yeah, she would have had a problem with it. But you know what? I think if they had said, listen, this is what we're going to do, then they could use her as more of a resource down the road.
Speaker 3:You know. The interesting thing is Tabitha and Julie show up at Colony House the first time and they're like tying them up up at. Colony House, the first time and they're like tying them up. Acosta was someone they needed to tie up just to calm her down or to just subdue her, and that's the thing.
Speaker 2:That's the protocol that they have. But they didn't follow it with her. Let's see what November Baby has to say, or Baby November. I was frustrated with the cause. Thank you, you can read it. You can read it.
Speaker 3:Oh okay, I was frustrated when Acosta asked why the voices didn't tell Sarah where Fatima was, that Donna didn't say. The voices Sarah hears are trying to be helpful. They're supposed to make her crazy, which I thought. The same thing Like when Sarah is telling Boyd about what the voices said, and I'm like they sound pretty helpful. I'm like why was she so stressed out, like you know getting the messages? I'm like, hey, you know she's over here. You're you know she's messages. I'm like, hey, you know she's over here, you know she's close. I'm like they're being nice, until she said they were laughing. You know, this is the thing.
Speaker 2:This is the thing. I'm not frustrated with Acosta because she doesn't know Sarah. No, she doesn't.
Speaker 3:All she knows is that Sarah killed somebody.
Speaker 2:She's like a killer. When she sees Sarah, she'll want to go out for like squishmallows and popcorn or something I mean you know, you know, remember when Elgin first gets there. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And he goes into the church and Sarah's in the church.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:And he's all like hmm, hey, how you doing. You know, making the eyes like how you doing Right. Oh, wait, wait, wait I'm sorry About her.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I was frustrated with Donna for not communicating that.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, no, that makes more sense. I was like, yeah, but you know what, though, in Donna's defense right now, I think that Donna is in a bad place right now and she is in survival mode.
Speaker 3:And I think that's the problem. Yeah, all right. So Donna, let's see, she doesn't understand this place. Acosta demands that Donna tell her how this place works, because Donna knows something and isn't sharing it with her. And Donna tells her that she can't walk her through the many ways this place will fuck with your head. And so Donna tells her to trust her and help her. And she will tell her you know right? Um, yeah, I, I mean, I can understand wanting to know all this stuff. But, like, if she's a cop, she's not yet a detective, but I'm sure she had some training in the academy. Like, why isn't she collecting clues?
Speaker 2:Well, she's trying to, but nobody's giving her any information. Like that's the thing. Like she hit the nail on the head with Donna. She's like you're not telling me everything, what the freak is going on. I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist you don't have to be a police officer to figure it out. But you know, when nobody's giving you an answer and they keep putting you off, you kind of look a little crazy. But you also kind of you know, yeah, you're just a little crazy. I mean I don't know what to say about that because she's just in such a bad place. But but, that said, where else do you want to go now? Do you want to go back to the meeting or do you want to go?
Speaker 3:I want to skip over to Boyd. Okay, boyd and Ellis spent a lot of time together which, if we jump back to season one, ellis wasn't talking to Boyd. Ellis wasn't talking to Boyd. So while Boyd and Ellis search for Fatima, boyd has a Parkinson's attack, and so badly that he almost can't walk. And every time Boyd stumbles through something, all I hear is Cowboy saying you said we couldn't break you.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:And I'm like they're throwing it all on him.
Speaker 2:Everything. I really do believe that and this is the thing about this place that is really pissing me off in terms of you know is really pissing me off in terms of you know, the survivors. Yes, he's got Parkinson's, he's got this, he's got that, but he doesn't Meaning this. I'm not saying he doesn't have it. What I'm saying is they can turn the volume up and down at any time.
Speaker 2:Okay, and this is the thing that's really making me mad, they haven't figured that out yet yeah okay, and that's my point is like, like the whole, just let me finish the whole thing with his wife. You know they turned it up the whole thing with thomas, which we're going to get to in a minute down the road. Um, you know that's pissing me off because I'm like you're a freaking asshole, meaning the entity, and it's like then, to top it off, when they're having that conversation, I swear to God you can talk about all the blood and guts you want, the scariest freaking thing. When that nurse went, like this, oh my God, folks, you got to tell me was that crazy town or what? Because I'm like, I am like this, this stuff they're throwing down.
Speaker 3:You know he looked unhinged when he was at the window, Like he pulls the gun knowing that it's not going to do any good and he can't shoot through the window because she can come in at that point.
Speaker 2:I mean, that was just. That was just bad, that was crazy town and the fact that it was perfect and she is just friggin a creepy person.
Speaker 2:Look in person. I mean you know, like the way they have her made up and everything I mean I know. So in in last week's or, or I'm sorry, in the Samantha Brown interview, I had said that the FX has been really great and somebody commented that, oh, they look like they're 1980, with, with, with Dale and Dale on the wall. Well, with Dale and the Wall, well, that may be looking like 1980, but these monsters are as good as any monsters they've done in TV. I mean, they are just they're freaky.
Speaker 2:And maybe I'm wrong because I don't see a lot of like blood and guts. I know there's a lot. I know Daphne, who does Run For your Lives, is on and they just finished, finished Teacup, which we're going to talk about later. But my point being is I just I think they just did such a crazy job with making these people crazy I shouldn't say crazy. They made them so creepy by not making them overly creepy, you know what I mean like they're just so plain and it's like when your mom would get quiet when you're up, but um, I I do love that alice and and boyd are talking, I just the.
Speaker 2:The problem is it's like they can't they, it's like you can never get on the same page, like when he's good, he's not good.
Speaker 3:When he's good, yeah it's so shame and boyd is, like you know, freaking out, thinking he's falling apart, like he's having the worst um parkinson's attacks that he's had since, and I just I don't know like it's like in this place. You cannot be cocky. You have to keep your thoughts to yourself, right, and your dares to yourself you know Absolutely, absolutely. I'm hot, I'm cold. I'm hot, I'm cold.
Speaker 2:Okay, Before we get to the next thing where do you want to go? Where do you want to go?
Speaker 3:Well, I was still working with Boyd and Ellis.
Speaker 2:Once we finish, boyd and Ellis, let me know.
Speaker 3:Okay. So next morning they spent the night in the station. So the next morning Boyd and Ellis argue about what to do and then Sarah comes in and shares her, her experience with the voices and she says the voices told her, um, oh, she comes in saying is Fatima missing? And then which? Is super suspicious. And then, to be even more sus, she asks if Fatima is okay. Right. But then she tells him that the voices talk to her and want them to know that Fatima is close and afraid. Right.
Speaker 3:Voices were laughing because they won't find her in time and they can't save her, and I'm just like that's just kind of heartbreaking you know, that's just messed up that's just, it is messed up because I kind of believe them, um, and I'm hoping we still have a shot, but like I love fatima, like, like that's going to be heartbreaking, I don't know. I don't know that I'm going to kill her off.
Speaker 2:But I'm not a firm believer that people, survivors, turn into monsters. That's my first thought. I believe, maybe, that a monster will be created, or it could all just evaporate, like with the worms, you know how something will happen where it'll evaporate, but right now she's not in a good place.
Speaker 2:But you know, we'll see what happens. I want to get to that in just a minute. But I do want to do one other thing in just a minute, because we're, we're, uh, where is it? I don't think I have it All right, nevermind, um, oh, yeah, yeah, I do, yeah, I do, I do have it. Um, cause we're at the half hour, right, okay?
Speaker 2:So I just want to play this, cause I know you've been going on at the half hour. Yeah, it's something huge. No, it's not huge. All right, just check this out, because you, lizzie, spent minutes on this video. We got minutes. So I want everybody to know that she really worked hard, and I had to enhance it for the five people that actually watched this podcast. Lizzie, what are you doing?
Speaker 3:I'm putting magnets on the fridge.
Speaker 2:What do you think I'm doing so? For those of you that are listening on the audio podcast, what that is it's a compilation of all the stickers and the posters and all the other stuff that you can get on the what is from shop. And if I didn't do that, she would be very upset with me because she's worked really hard on on getting all that stuff up there and we've had a couple of hiccups with the mailing and all sorts of stuff, but it's honestly it's not been our fault. So if you guys are looking for stuff, we are we're. We have a lot of stuff that you can get for the holidays and whatever else, but we are still talking. Season three, episode nine Relations, chapter one.
Speaker 3:We're going to Victor, but just let me say we are just trying to offset our cost for the podcast stuff. So you know, when we have known Victor through this he's just been kind of head down and quiet for the most part. You know getting pissed at Jade rightly so, because Jade took his mother's violin, that sort of thing. But in this episode like I mean you can see it happening last episode, but this episode he is just utterly manic. He's ranting that he's at fault for his mother's death, like it. It's like things that he was, I don't know, thought he'd figured out, just are not lining up in his head, um, and he's in his room at colony house throwing everything out the window. He doesn't even care where it lands. There's some people down on the lawn below and and he's throwing out all his pictures.
Speaker 3:He throws the sled out the window.
Speaker 2:Well, I understand why.
Speaker 3:Because none of this stuff can help, it only hurts.
Speaker 2:What's that I mean? I understand why, Because you know the question is why is Victor alive? We haven't answered that. We don't know why he's still alive.
Speaker 2:Now, for those of you playing at home, Victor, the character was supposed to die in season one. They brought him back because Scott is an unbelievable actor and he killed it because Scott is an unbelievable actor and he killed it. But that being said, why did they leave this poor boy to live this long by himself at night, which totally screwed him up? Then they made him believe because he's an 11-year old kid at the time or whatever he was that that the All this stuff had meaning. Now, it could have been a combination of him just believing it and the entity kind of not doing anything. Also, you have the boy in white, which we're going to talk about in a little bit. Also, you have the boy in white which we're going to talk about in a little bit.
Speaker 2:And the biggest problem with Victor is nobody really knows what he's going through, because they've never grown up here. The only person that has a inkling of what he's going through is, uh, ethan, but he doesn't because he's got his family there, so so you know when he goes crazy through colony house and like acosta's got her gun and and and uh, kenny's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa and donna wasn't around and his dad wasn't around his dad right now, and we're going to talk about whoa and Donna wasn't around and his dad wasn't around His dad right now, and we're going to talk about that in a little bit. I know, you know his dad is in a catch-22. I mean, he is in such a bad place and how do you believe one thing your whole entire life and then you find out it's not what it is. You know it's like when you grow up, you know it's kind of like part of life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and unfortunately it came crashing down in about two days. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry to go off on that.
Speaker 3:That's right so while he's doing this, kenny and acosta come running upstairs and acosta is a little too aggressive with victor, um, and if you notice, kenny moved his body between Acosta and Victor and she's not taking the measure of her surroundings. And this is just another instance where this is abundantly clear. She is a hammer that only sees nails. That's all she sees. That only sees nails. That's all she sees. So Victor, you know, goes by them down to the kitchen and grabs an ax because he's going to go cut down a tree and if you notice, there's just two. You know there's people around in the house just doing whatever, and then there's two people sitting at the table and they're eating and he says that people are not scared. He sees things coming to a point and no one is noticing that it's happening. They're just treating today like any other day, that things are not building up, that things are not coming to a fever pitch where you know it's going to explode. They're just.
Speaker 3:He's been through this before, he's recognizing all the signs and he feels like he's the only one that's alarmed. You know, it's just. That's an example of complacency right there. An example of complacency right there. So let's jump over to. You know he goes out to the actual far away bottle tree. I'm not sure if it's far away or far away, and I kind of like far away better.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either.
Speaker 3:So he goes out to the bottle tree and he gives that tree a nice chop Like he's got a lot of work ahead of him.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then the boy in boy in white shows up and tells him to stop Because the tree is important. And I think the answer to this question might be the boy in white.
Speaker 2:So the question that I have, and I'd love for people to comment in the chat, is is the boy in white good or bad? And the question is and this is what's really frustrating is he because he says to Victor I gave you guys the answers and you didn't? Yeah, you didn't.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like yeah. He says you know, victor is begging for his help, like he's standing there. He's like you're supposed to be my friend and he's like I am your friend, you're supposed to be my friend and he's like I am your friend, and Victor is begging for help. And the boy in white says no, he tried with Christopher and and, but this time he thinks that they need to learn for themselves. And I'm like, of course, it's the time that we are at from with them. They have to learn for themselves.
Speaker 2:And they didn't show the conversation. They didn't have the audio of the conversation of him and the boy in white with Christopher.
Speaker 3:Yeah, christopher, because he was telling Christopher in the basement of the church. So they both observed the change within each other, like the boy in white has gotten a little bit older, you know, and I think that's the way that they're able to keep Vox on the show.
Speaker 2:I think that that's a brilliant statement you just said.
Speaker 3:But I think what they did was because it's never been winter. The boy in white has been suspended at a certain age all this time. You can justify it any way you want.
Speaker 2:I just love the fact that you know what. At the end of the day, we've had a strike and we had winter and I got to tell you, in terms of this show, it actually might have made it better.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it enhanced it absolutely um, we're at 150, yay. So, um, let's see, they both observed changes in one one another and the boy in white is saying that everything is changing now, almost like what is what has happened has set off you know the clock. The clock is running yeah.
Speaker 3:So Victor again begs for help. You know because tell me what to do. And the boy just says don't cut down that tree. That's all he did. So Daphne is saying I'm conflicted on this. I don't blame Victor for being skeptical. I don't blame Victor for being skeptical.
Speaker 2:I don't blame Victor for being skeptical at all. I think if I was him, I'd be even more skeptical.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean to just be like. It was almost kind of like snarky Don't cut down the tree and he turns around and walks away and I'm like man, like I don't know what happened the last time, like we don't exactly know what happened the last time, but whatever happened, christopher did not do what the boy in white was suggesting that he do and this time around and you know he's had like 40 years to think about boy and white decide they're on their own. Right.
Speaker 2:You know you know before you go on and this is where our first thoughts and Ty Briggs hits the nail on the head. You can't really judge this episode because it's it's one of two parts yeah, well, you can.
Speaker 3:You can if, if you think it sucks, but I don't the point is if it's, we don't know the whole thing that's what I mean.
Speaker 2:When you know the whole story, it might actually be part of something a lot bigger, and I'm really glad that ty said that, because I feel the same way.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So before we say goodbye to Victor for the time being, Daphne is saying this was a rough episode for Victor. He's had so much trauma and this is all pulling back those feelings and thoughts. So Sky says just above it, Like so Jade needs to go through the tree, which is where I want to go. Next is to Jade and Henry.
Speaker 2:All right, hold on. Excuse me one second.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm. I need my special little titles. What did you give me? What did you give me?
Speaker 2:Oh, you're ready.
Speaker 3:I think he is becoming that scared little boy again. Daphne.
Speaker 2:Okay, jade and Henry, that's it. That's all you got.
Speaker 3:Just Jade and Henry.
Speaker 2:So, okay.
Speaker 3:So you know, when I am teaching math and I'm trying to solve a math problem and we're stuck, the first thing I will do is I'll be like, all right, let's draw a diagram, right. And that is what Jade has done with this bottle tree. He couldn't figure it out. With it just sitting on the table, with it on the wall, with pictures and stuff like that, he couldn't figure it out. So he decided to build one. So you know, know, now, you know jade is totally sober, he's committed to that and he climbs up the ladder, hangs the bottle and then looks and there's christopher and jasper and I'm like, oh yeah, that was great.
Speaker 2:I I love the fact that you know he has the conversation with them and christopher has not said a word yet yeah, he hasn't said anything, and we actually haven't really, other than the wah, wah, wah yelling at the boy in white.
Speaker 3:We haven't heard his voice.
Speaker 2:The best part is when Jasper and he jumps up.
Speaker 3:It was that screen from season two when Jasper first shows up.
Speaker 2:But the thing is he knew it was coming and he still had a problem with it.
Speaker 3:He didn't know it was coming. If I was on a ladder, I would have slid down it too.
Speaker 2:You know, it was just oh my God, it was a deep comic relief in a serious situation. But I love how Henry is really trying to figure out. Victor and he went to Jade and they had a little walk in the woods.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So let's see Henry's attention. He asks who Jade was talking to. Oh, that's what gets Henry's attention. All right, so Jade and Henry are walking. I think they're going to go search party with everybody else, right? So Jade tells Henry that he needs to stop trying to fix Victor. Victor is not broken to stop trying to fix.
Speaker 3:Victor. Victor is not broken. Victor is a product of this place and Henry's just not understanding Victor. And Victor is like Tarzan, having grown up in the jungle, and then someone is criticizing him for using for how he's working or something like that. Yeah, here's the pro. Yeah, he's tarzan growing up in the jungle and you've, you're the guy that comes along and makes him feel like an asshole because he doesn't know how to use a fork, which, yeah, I mean. And the thing is, I think in everyday life we do that to people, like we expect people to handle situations, you know that they know nothing about where. They're, just out of their element.
Speaker 2:You know, it's like when we ask, when we ask younger kids like my daughter to make change.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Oh my God, yeah, I mean, everybody gets all mad at them.
Speaker 2:Why don't you make change? Well, they don't really use change. I'm not here to go on that whole tangent.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you know what it's not even that's not even a new thing. I mean, I know, when I was in school, we were taught how to make change, okay, and I can still do it, thankfully. I mean not like it's any great skill, but it seems like a great skill. We don't use a lot of cash, I know, like me, having cash on me is kind of a rarity, but yeah, no, I get it. I mean, they can't make change Like they. It's like they don't have that concept. You know, count back from, you know, up to a dollar. All right, so now we're going to jump over to the town meeting.
Speaker 2:All right, we're ringing the bell. I know we're all over the place. But I really think the way we're doing it it it make sense because we're getting to the good stuff at the end.
Speaker 3:Pieces, parts, yeah, oh, my gosh. Yeah, I mean, it was kind of challenging trying to decide how to do this, but it's like I want to make sure I hit all the parts, all the pieces. Yeah, I'm a thousand percent with you. So, donna and Boyd call the town meeting, they get everyone there and they say that Fatima is missing. And the thing about Fatima is that she's so lovable that no one has any problems going out to look for her, and I think they would look for just about anybody. But because it's Fatima, everyone is like on deck.
Speaker 3:Boyd knows Fatima is close because he says, you know, because something here has told us that she's alone, afraid and can't, oh, that they won't find her. He says that they can lay down and die or say a double bird, f you and I do not give the finger. That is just something that I don't do, but I did do it one time to a um, a principal that I had, but, um, and it was the double, the double bird. I was like, if I'm going to do it, I'm going to go full bird, you know.
Speaker 3:So, anyway, um, they pair up to go out and search and it's Ethan and Jim, kenny and Boyd, elgin and Ellis, which Elgin and Ellis and Donna and Acosta Like. I just like talk about pairings. It might have been interesting to see Elgin and Acosta, but that's not how it worked out. Boyd and Ellis decide to split up so that they can increase their chances of them being the ones to find Fatima. So Ethan and Jim go to the RV and I'm not sure why they go to the RV, or they just decided to take that one.
Speaker 2:But, um, while they are there, as they're leaving, thomas comes over the radio and it's like you know, ethan's like you're not my brother, you know, like we don't know, I will say this and I really that was the first time I after listening to the boy in white I really thought it was him, but but I know it's not I just he really sounded like the actor Vox. Yeah. And yeah, I do want to pop this up there. One of the listeners, sky, said I'm scared for Boyd because he keeps making these decisions. Kenny's mom Declarations.
Speaker 3:Declarations Declarations. I'm sorry, yep, that's all right.
Speaker 2:Kenny's mom was bad enough. Oh my gosh. Yeah, you know they're setting him up for failure. I mean, they keep setting him up, they keep setting him up.
Speaker 3:Well, he sets himself up Like he's just like, oh, you want me to fail. How can I help you? You know, like he just yeah, I get it. He's helping them. Break him.
Speaker 1:No, I get it, I get it, he's helping them, break him.
Speaker 3:No, I get it. Yeah, so I think like the creepy creepy one was just elgin and ellis oh, that was fun oh my, my God. I mean Elgin's eyes, like wide open eyes, looking like like I've heard that if you can see someone's entire like circle of their eye, that they're crazy. You know, like if you can, like if they're just walking around like that all the time, and you know, of course, like I went and looked in the mirror to see if I could do that, yeah see, you're not doing it, you're not crazy.
Speaker 3:but I don't know, maybe I am, I don't know, but anyway, elgin compares his friend going missing and they find him at the playground to we're not gonna find her at the playground there she is as adama on that merry-go-round next to the old matthew's house. You know what? They can't find her because she keeps spinning around.
Speaker 2:Yeah right, um no I, I, I think that, I, I think that that was creepy. And yeah, he is creepy and he is becoming more put the lotion in the basket guy than ever before and my god, we should have asked him if he watched the movie this week. I did. He didn't answer me yet, oh okay. Oh yeah, I know where she is. I locked her in the cellar, but there we go.
Speaker 3:There's a bigger plan to this and that's the way he's talking to Fatima. He's just almost like you are making, like you're just making such a huge sacrifice voluntarily and you know the world is going to worship you like.
Speaker 2:When was this voluntary?
Speaker 3:I know right, oh, my gosh. So, um, then they go to the brndles, and Fatima had brought Elgin out there you know, when he first got there.
Speaker 3:Because he was her proxy or she was his proxy or whatever. And you know she did so much for me and it makes me wonder if it was fated for Fatima to be his proxy to show him around that sort of thing. Um, let's see, you know Fatima was helping him when he arrived. You know, along with him, hitting on Sarah and Julie, like Sarah the murderer, julie, julie the 16-year-old.
Speaker 2:Okay, wait here, wait. How about this hot take? How about this hot take?
Speaker 3:I just thought of who's got a hot take.
Speaker 2:I do, you do. What if Elgin was feeling the waters out to find out who would be the best carrier for this baby baby?
Speaker 3:or I wonder. I mean, I think that's a good take on it, and I wonder if fatima like, because she can't have a baby, I wonder if she was missing. No, she had a, had a uterus. No, but look at his situation.
Speaker 2:You've got Julie, who's too young, yeah, okay. You've got Sarah, who's batshit crazy Like nobody cares. Fatima is the one that is grounded Well. She's the one that's invested in the whole community, yeah, and I mean there could have been somebody else, but you know she also has the best story with. Ellis and everything else.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. And I was like when Ellis said that's my wife, I'm like when did they get married? I'm like, duh, you were at the wedding. It was like the most beautiful wedding, all right. So anyway, he tells out Ellis this not, uh, not going to lose, you're not going to lose Fatima, it's going to be okay. What if Fatima is doing something to help us? This might be a good thing. Don't have all the information on the baby, don't be afraid. Think she'll be okay.
Speaker 2:He said all of those things to Ellis and.
Speaker 3:Ellis couldn't pick it up. Yeah, Elgin is like she's going to be OK. Ok, wait, I have to talk to Sky right now.
Speaker 2:I didn't know anything until he started seeing the weird. Ok, but this is the problem with your theory. Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 3:He had a dream In the bus on the bus and then and then he went into convulsions like he was being activated.
Speaker 2:Right. So he might not have had all the parts of the plan which is the pregnant girl, but he might have been like, hey, you know, there could have been some other stuff going on, yeah, but he couldn't remember you going on. Yeah, but he couldn't remember. You're absolutely right, he couldn't remember. So my point being is it was kind of like he's getting, he's getting all the piecemeal. So I mean, I think we're saying the same thing. I just think he doesn't have all the. He'd have all the pieces in the puzzle, but he had enough to to go to the next part, um, and I think that's a good point, I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. So, yeah, they were creeping each other out there because he was kind of tiptoeing and, for those of you that just joined us, because we had a bunch of numbers of people come in, we are talking Season 3, episode 9. Revelation, chapter 1.
Speaker 3:And we are. If you want to hit that subscribe button, go hit it, because we are close to our goal, which is 800 subscribers. Oh, okay, we're at 790. We're at 790.
Speaker 2:Yeah, does anyone think what Fatima will?
Speaker 3:open the hatch in the ground. Yeah, like you know what, when she found that, it reminded me of the hatch in Lost and I was like I am not going back to there unless they've got Desmond down there. That is the only reason I would care about that hatch.
Speaker 2:Oh wait a second Read this one.
Speaker 3:Is anyone else alarmed that Fatima took the pregnancy test the morning after Boyd killed the monster? Seems like they could be connected. Well, maybe things just change shape.
Speaker 2:Well, with a name like Miss Baby.
Speaker 3:November. Energy can never be destroyed.
Speaker 2:But with a name like Miss Baby November. You know, maybe she knows something that we don't know. I've always felt there was some sort of connection between him and Fatima and Alice somehow. So we are all picking up on something that is happening now, who knows? But the fact is, folks, we got one more episode, and I love all these theories, but I think what's more interesting is and I think we really need to get to it is what happens when Tabitha and Julie split up and go on their adventure.
Speaker 3:Right, so let me get to that. All right. So now we're going to go join Fatima in that little room. So Elgin says to her you're not a prisoner here Yet he's got her locked in. You know, I don't know if there's a lock on the outside of the red door, but he certainly pushes that armoire across in front of it and then there's a latch on the door beyond that. So she's locked in there. So Elgin says the baby was scared and hungry and that's why Fatima killed Tilly. Elgin has brought his blood for food, which Fatima drinks. The baby helped when he remembered his dream and it, it or the baby helped him to remember his dream and it helps Boyd to save the town. I'm like Elgin is like you know what he's, he's talking all this bullshit. And I'm like, oh my God, you sound like a crazy person, Elgin. He is Like he just should be walking around with his eyes like this and they should be swirling.
Speaker 2:So Skye kind of narrowed it down. So first off, elgin is seeing dead monsters on the ground, ie no, he's seeing dead monsters on the ground.
Speaker 2:Ie, he's seeing dead monsters on the ground he's supposed to be. You know, he's helping her with the pregnancy and he helped with the death of Smiley. So, yeah, I mean there's definitely he's got something going on. But I really don't believe and Daphne says this too I don't believe elgin's bad, I don't think sarah's bad. I just think that they're the catalyst for whatever these people are. And we just have over 200 viewers right now and welcome everybody they're puppets, that's, that's all there is to it.
Speaker 3:They're just puppets, and you know he's talking about this baby. And fatima says the thing inside me is not going to do good things. So there's some sort of communication going on between the two of them right so you know, when she he had brought her some larger clothing because, like, remember, we see her and she's kind of like kneeling on the floor and her belly is way out like this all of a sudden, and so this shirt she's wearing is no longer fitting.
Speaker 2:I mean, she is a petite little thing did you see the outfit that they gave her? She that green dress thing I mean that's something from you know. Put the lotion in the basket, all right yeah.
Speaker 3:So she puts that on and she is taking her. She takes her uggs off, um, so that she can. She's going to take her pants off and that's when she notices the little latch in the floor and starts, you know, cleaning that off.
Speaker 2:So let's jump over to Tabitha because we're going to come back to Fatima. You know, I first want to say when we, when we start doing that, you know at this point, at this point, what is happening. Boyd has told them we're gonna. At this point, what is happening? Boyd has told them we're going to split up in pairs and the Matthews decided that they're going to. They all want to be part of this. So Jim goes with Ethan, they go off and Julie goes off with Tabitha. And I just wanted to set the stage a little bit and now do your thing.
Speaker 3:All right. So Tabitha, when she's in the church earlier in the episode she touches Victor and she kind of goes someplace Like there's just you know that she's not standing right there. We don't know what it is. So now we're in the search party with Tabitha and Julie and they look in Victor's trailer. There's nobody there. So that was an easy thing. Julie doesn't think she was dreaming when she was in the ruins. She thinks that she actually went someplace.
Speaker 3:Right went someplace, right and um, and she tells tabitha that she worries that she'll end up there all alone, which is so sad, um, tabitha. Like they're standing at the back end of the trailer when tabitha sees one of the ankui kids and the ankui kid motions for them to follow her, and so they're yeah, I have some place fun to go.
Speaker 3:I need you to unlock this door for me. I can't reach it, but anyway. They start following the kid and the kid leads them to the root cellar and one of the doors is open. So Tabitha steps down into the steps and she's, you know, like chest high in there and she goes someplace. And Tabitha thinks someone in Dura. Oh my God, she goes somewhere. She's off somewhere. I don't think we see where she's at right. No, no, she's off somewhere. I don't think we see where she's at right, no, no, no.
Speaker 3:This is the point where oh, I know, okay, it's only been an hour since I've seen this and I'm already forgetting it. This is the point where Kimono woman shows up and covers Fatima's mouth so that they won't hear Fatima screaming for help, and so she's got Fatima trapped there on the bed. So Julie brings her mother out of that place and Tabitha goes all the way down into the first room and she sees Victor, and Victor is just standing there, like facing the corner. He's not standing in the corner, but he's facing the corner. So he said you know, this is where my mother left us, meaning himself and Eloise, and Victor thought there was a reason that he lived, but what he's realizing is that he was the reason why his mother died, which was so sad and sad enough that tabitha, like who really cares for this man, um, you know like, she's taken him in, uh, like a son, almost, you know, but another adult, another adult, but she, she goes to, you know, hug him to console him, and she just goes someplace else totally different.
Speaker 3:She can see Miranda hugging Eloise and Victor. You know so it's Eloise. We see Eloise's face and Victor's face and Victor. You know so it's. We see Eloise's face and Victor's face. And then you know, miranda is in the center of them and she's just telling them how much she loves them, and then she leaves and the next thing we see is there's only one word.
Speaker 3:Oh wait a minute, one word. Oh wait a minute. Tabitha pushes away from victor saying no, it's impossible, because, like she was in, she was miranda. But then she. Then the next thing we see is miranda running through the woods and, um, she comes to the faraway tree, but we don't know, not the faraway tree, the bottle, but we don't know, not the far way tree, the bottle tree, but we don't know which bottle tree it is. Is it just the bottle tree or is it the far way bottle tree? And she stops, and then, all of a sudden, we see Smiley, and then he's on her, like he's like and then he's on her Like she doesn't even have a chance.
Speaker 3:She doesn't even have a chance, and I'm thinking it's either she went to the wrong tree or she was at the right tree, but the hole was on the other side.
Speaker 2:All right, we need to address some stuff in the chat. I want to. Because, first off, I'm with G. G, you're my man right now. This is not reincarnation, folks. Maybe I'm wrong. You guys can, okay. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe G and I are on an island, maybe it's called Lost. I don't know, I never saw Lost. I think that the entity knows how to put things in people's minds, to make them you touch something and you feel something.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, but G I'm not sure I agree with G on that, but he is absolutely 100 correct that smiling running was interesting. Did you see jamie um actually put a video on instagram about him being on the show?
Speaker 2:this week, so I'm so happy that he's back on the show.
Speaker 3:You know, that's what I love about this show Like people might die, but they keep coming back.
Speaker 2:Well, they have you know, yeah, they do past stuff. I mean, the only one that we want to see and I know everybody wants to see her, mrs Liu. No, we want to see Jasmine. Oh, jasmine, I want to see both of them. We've talked about it. I don't think she's going to return anytime soon.
Speaker 3:I don't think so.
Speaker 2:I've said this to her on multiple texts. You know her interview has reached over 10,000 views. Yeah, is reached over 10 000 views. Yeah, and she has to be the most interesting woman in from when it comes to people wanting to know about that character.
Speaker 3:Um, yeah, and uh, and we did do an interview with her, so you know if you're watching this and you're like, oh, oh, I'd love to see more about her. We do have an interview, but you'd have to, I think, go to our podcast.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it's on our podcast as well as our. It's on our YouTube. It's got over 10,000.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that is what's on the YouTube. I thought it was something much shorter. It is a short interview, but it was, you know, really pretty good. It is a short interview, but it was, you know, really pretty good.
Speaker 2:Now hold on. Like Lisa is saying, I think this is more likely that she's grown up, eloise, than reincarnated. I don't think she's either.
Speaker 3:I don't think so, because if she, I don't know I put Jim and Tabitha at about 40 years old, which Eloise was no more than 10. Victor was younger than Eloise, so it would make sense. If Victor is 50 now, if they were reincarnated, if she is the reincarnated Miranda, it would make sense that Tabitha would be about 40 years old. I was thinking about that this week.
Speaker 2:Well, I think Peter has gotten the answer to all of Brom.
Speaker 3:No, she isn't. Oh, that's G, she's not Miranda, she's clearly.
Speaker 2:Tabitha Smiley. Just kidding? No, I'm just kidding. Why don't you read what she said?
Speaker 3:I think she's envisioning what happens. Her being any of them people would be silly gee, I'm with you, my friend I'm not I'm totally friend. I'm not. I'm totally with you. I'm not. The thing about it is that Miranda was connected to that place before she got there. She was seeing visions of that place.
Speaker 2:But I think, though to your point and folks, we're talking, episode nine, season three, is this I think there's something to do with chess. We've got to go back to that. We're not going to do it today, but I think the pieces are interchangeable.
Speaker 3:I started working on that.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get back to that it goes back to the first episode or the second episode when Kenny talked about chess. I think that these people are interchangeable and the entity like Jade said she was going to come to from whether she liked it or not. Every person has a purpose in this place. The EMTs I keep going back to this. They had one purpose to get them to Frum.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Jade's best friend had one purpose to get them from Frum.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean they died.
Speaker 2:But Boyd's purpose. What's Boyd's purpose? To get everybody rallied. To get to be a cohesive unit. What's Mrs Liu's purpose? To feed to be a cohesive unit. What's mrs lou's purpose? To feed? To be a kenny has grown up enough that he doesn't need his parents anymore.
Speaker 3:I'm, I'm just yeah you know, I mean that's. I mean they got rid of them. But in julie is her mother's daughter, so it kind of makes sense that she was one of the three. We don't know very, we don't, we really don't know anything about randall. We don't know that much about marielle, other than she's christy's fiance and she's kicked a drug habit.
Speaker 2:That's about all we know she's also a medical person. Yeah, I mean, you know, like I said, they could have taken anybody out at any time and they've chosen not to.
Speaker 3:You know what it is Like, all the extraneous townspeople. I feel like they're food for the monsters. That's what their purpose is, so that they don't mess with the people that they need for this game, Because, you know, Frank's entire family was taken out. No more Prats. We didn't need them. You know they were introduction and that was it. But we needed bob for our podcast well, yeah, he couldn't be on our podcast the way he is now. If he was still on the show, we would never have him I'm kidding, I think merrily merrill marielle marielle is.
Speaker 2:Is there just to have a relationship drama? I, I don't think so. I think it's more than that.
Speaker 3:I think it's more than that I don't really like the way they use her. She is backup medical. She isn't talking about what happened to her with the cicadas. Cicadas. Cicadas, cicadas. She doesn't really leave. Well, she does.
Speaker 2:All I know is this Lizzie she doesn't do much. Lizzie, like all I know is this If you're going to take me to a place at night where there's monsters and I don't have to work, I don't have to worry about paying bills, I don't have to do any of this stuff and all I have to do is worry about eat, drink and be merry.
Speaker 3:And stay in. Sign me up. Sign me up, I mean, at least I wonder how stressful it is there.
Speaker 2:No, but I'm just saying like Donna said it and she put the nail on the head, at least here we know where the monsters are yeah, yeah and except for they didn't count on elgin well, all right, let's see why don't you read this one?
Speaker 3:so when tabitha was at victor's house, henry Henry told her that Miranda was seeing visions of the chosen ones. I guess what happened to her is the same in episode nine. Yeah, to some extent like she's definitely connecting With Miranda in some way, like there's some kind of common energy bond between them. Um, I'm trying to like to have okay. So I think the people are there for monsters to have fun more than food. Oh yeah, I'd love to move to this bill-free town. Colony house parties. Look fun, you know what.
Speaker 2:You and me both. You and me both G.
Speaker 3:Lisa, what do you think is going to happen with Randall?
Speaker 2:I think they just want to torture him.
Speaker 3:I wonder if he was in the armed services and was, oh gosh, like he would. Oh, what is that word? You know, when they try to break down a prisoner to get information from them, yeah, they interrogate what is that? What is the interrogator? Oh, here we go, because it's strange that the boy in white believed Christopher was the chosen one, or new Victor was standing there and he would tell his mother about the conversation.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, I think, I think. I think I'm with Gito. I think Victor is a pawn. I think Victor, no, randall, randall's a pawn in all this. The question, the question that has to be answered, which we're not going to get answered tonight, is what is the bigger game? Are they playing chess and are the? Because it seems like the monsters are playing chess and the survivors are playing checkers. And you know, donna said it and I keep going back to these little tidbits that she throws in the game is rigged. You know, they know everything about them, and yet Eloise is disappeared, is still a mystery. Maybe she will show up, you know. You know Daphne said this is great, I like that. Jim and Ethan walked away from the radio voice because they've Gotten past that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like that. Yeah, definitely they both. You know, neither one of them fell for that Thomas thing. Yeah, it's just like what the Both you know neither one of them fell for that.
Speaker 2:Thomas thing.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, yeah so it's just like what the you know, but he, he did not for a second think that it was Thomas, and Ethan was like you're not Thomas you know you can't.
Speaker 2:So she doesn't know what what's going to happen with with Randall, but with the cicada sounds, his common sense is around. Jim, yeah, I mean, I get that. I mean Randall is just on edge because they just keep beating the crap out of him.
Speaker 3:But see, I think that Randall has a purpose and if you look at the three of them, they are all acting differently.
Speaker 2:And you know what this also makes the point that they're all still alive for a reason. I mean, they're all still alive. So, that being said, what do you think about next week's episode?
Speaker 3:I haven't, I don't know. I don't even know what to expect. You know, like I remember when the Walking Dead was on, we'd kind of predict like who would be. Oh wow, church has showed up or finally said something. We would predict who might be killed in the closing episode of the season. Like who do you think is going to die? You know, I don't really think about this show in that respect, like I don't think about who's going to die. In that respect, like I don't think about who's going to die. I mean, they set us up, but good, with the, the teaser trailers. You know, like Mrs Lou looked like she was on the chopping block, randall looked like he was on the chopping block.
Speaker 3:Tabitha.
Speaker 2:like all of them, we were all like and I love ending guys, I gotta tell ya it was hysterical when you go on the internet every single week and everybody had their different thing. I know what is going on and I'm gonna tell you right now. We never say that because we don't have a freaking clue, because we've been doing this long enough. The trailer is designed to do that and the only reason we figured out that it was Mrs Lou was that stupid plate. Well, no, the second was the second trailer that that proved it. But so we've got some people.
Speaker 3:When I saw the the plate, I knew I mean elgin is the true pawn. He can be thrown away. He's not going to make it out of this alive um, oh yeah, no, he's totally I think.
Speaker 2:I think he's gone. I mean, I mean maybe not, maybe not season, but he might get done in the first two episodes of next season, I think.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The plate.
Speaker 3:The guy. The body of a guy's body was in that room. I wonder if they just covered it up or took him out before they put Fatima in there, but that body. It looked like jade it did look like jade, but the shirt wasn't right. The body A man. He couldn't have given birth to a monster, or could he?
Speaker 2:Well, stranger things have happened.
Speaker 3:Well, we don't even know how the monster gets out. They might just burst through the belly.
Speaker 2:Who knows? Well, maybe we'll find out this week or next week. I should say yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, I don't have. What's that?
Speaker 2:Maybe it was Martin, who knows, maybe it was Martin.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't have anything else. Well folks, first off off, I want to thank you guys for listening yes, I know we've got over 233 listeners right now that is such an honor like thank you so much for joining us tonight and I hope you'll be back with us next Sunday night when we talk about the finale. That is going to be rough.
Speaker 2:We're going to try to have a special guest. I don't want to say who it is yet, because we've got a couple of people lined up. We do, we do and we're just trying to make sure we can get everyone. But just so you guys know a little bit of a heads up, just because the show is going to be over next week doesn't mean that we're not going to continue the conversation. We're going to try to podcast at least once a month.
Speaker 3:I'm wanting twice. I know it's a lot We'll see.
Speaker 2:We'll see what we can do. I'm wanting twice. I know it's a lot. We'll see. We'll see what we can do. We're also going to try to get some of the actors that we haven't talked to in a while back here Now that the season has been over. Yeah, we still have some. Maybe we'll get Christopher to talk. Maybe we'll just stick him in a room. We'll get him to talk.
Speaker 3:Damn it, or we'll get Jasper, we'll get him on just to hear what his voice sounds like.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
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Speaker 2:we like to be artsy but it is past the hour. We're almost into tomorrow. I want to thank you guys, but you know what ends up happening at the end of the day. It's dark out and it's time to go home. So we'll see you guys next week for the big grand finale, and make sure you have your talismans. Bye. Get your home, let's go. Come on, get in your house, let's go Come on.
